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Old August 30th, 2017, 01:23 PM   #1

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Similarities between Russian Communism and German Nazi regime


What do you think about the ongoing myth that to be anti-fascist, one ought to appreciate the Soviet Union and communism. Media continues to push a narrative that the communist Soviet Union was a major, if not sole, factor in defeating fascist Nazi Germany in World War II. But the actual historical relationship between fascism and communism is more complicated than appearing to be on opposite sides of the ideological spectrum.

No, The Communist Soviet Union Wasn't Anti-Fascist

This article relates red banners (flags) of the Soviet Union and Nazi Germany, and even similarities in swastikas and sickle and hammer. The only difference I can see is the grander scale of mass extermination and brutality committed by the Russians.

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Old August 30th, 2017, 01:27 PM   #2

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Clarification: the link in the original post,
No, The Communist Soviet Union Wasn't Anti-Fascist

is the article I was referring to.
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Old August 30th, 2017, 01:29 PM   #3

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What do you think about the ongoing myth that to be anti-fascist, one ought to appreciate the Soviet Union and communism.
Evidence this is even a thing?


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Media continues to push a narrative that the communist Soviet Union was a major, if not sole, factor in defeating fascist Nazi Germany in World War II.
And who would you suggest played a greater role in destroying the Nazis?

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]This article relates red banners (flags) of the Soviet Union and Nazi Germany, and even similarities in swastikas and sickle and hammer.
Then following that logic, the US must be a Nazi/Communist state because it has red in its flag.
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I didn't vote because the question is inaccurate and too broad. The two regimes were simmular in some ways and different in others.
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Old August 30th, 2017, 01:32 PM   #5

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What do you think about the ongoing myth that to be anti-fascist, one ought to appreciate the Soviet Union and communism. Media continues to push a narrative that the communist Soviet Union was a major, if not sole, factor in defeating fascist Nazi Germany in World War II. But the actual historical relationship between fascism and communism is more complicated than appearing to be on opposite sides of the ideological spectrum.
The fact that Fascism and Communism, only in one brief moment in history, were indeed partners and indirectly share some of the same influences, doesn't take at all the fact that the Soviet Union was one the major contributors for the destruction and total defeat of Nazi Germany and Fascism overall.

I don't see that as any sort of "invented narrative" that is being "pushed" by some unnamed organization or what have you...Besides, all I see in the media and the entertainment industry is the constant portrayal of the USA being the only major contributor in the defeat of Fascism.

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Old August 30th, 2017, 01:36 PM   #6

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The fact that Fascism and Communism, only in one brief moment in history, were indeed partners and indirectly share some of the same influences, it doesn't take at all the fact that the Soviet Union was one the major contributors to the destruction and total defeat of Nazi Germany and Fascism overall.
The Soviet Union's defeat of Nazi Germany was strictly a military decision, not an ideological one.

both regimes were brutal and totalitarian and slaughtered millions of their own people.

I would not want to live in either of them.
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I would say, given other rather similar threads, that the required, or hoped for answer, is that both were terrible, but the Soviet Union was very very very very very very very bad. I think I missed out a very, and a bad, very bad. Hammering that into heads, bad bad bad bad, better dead that red, duck and cover.
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The Soviet Union's defeat of Nazi Germany was strictly a military decision, not an ideological one.
I am not sure how that is mutually exclusive. Both ideologies hated each other as their natural enemy. If Hitler had not attacked first, Stalin would have eventually.

It can be argued that Hitler's rise was heavily linked to communism within Germany, which in a large part was sponsored and encouraged by Stalin.

Finally I think it might have been very slightly better to live in the USSR. At least if you kept your mouth shut and your nose clean you had a chance at survival. In Germany you could be killed simply because of the religion of your grandmother
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I would say, given other rather similar threads, that the required, or hoped for answer, is that both were terrible, but the Soviet Union was very very very very very very very bad. I think I missed out a very, and a bad, very bad. Hammering that into heads, bad bad bad bad, better dead that red, duck and cover.
But you got to admit they built cooler tanks than the Germans
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