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Old September 21st, 2017, 12:28 PM   #1

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Was Great Britain the biggest loser in the WWII?


I'm inclined to think that Grest Britain was in fact the biggest loser in the WWII. Not only that the country suffered tremendous loses, but also, they had to give up colonies and dismantle the British Empire. Its influence has diminished as USA took its place as the most powerful country in the world, and Brits had to forge a good relation with USA and depended heavily on being allies with USA. What are your thoughts on this?
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It's certainly arguable. Decolonisation, the losses and the decrease in global influence (most notably displayed during the Suez crisis) all point towards Britain being a loser of the Second World War. However, we are still the 5th or 6th largest economy in the world; so whereas I agree that we were a casualty of WWII, I wouldn't necessarily say that we were the biggest loser.
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Well... I'd say the French lost quite a lot too.
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It's certainly arguable. Decolonisation, the losses and the decrease in global influence (most notably displayed during the Suez crisis) all point towards Britain being a loser of the Second World War. However, we are still the 5th or 6th largest economy in the world; so whereas I agree that we were a casualty of WWII, I wouldn't necessarily say that we were the biggest loser.
Arguably, by economic measures, the Germans and the Japanese were amongst the biggest winners of WW2!
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Arguably, by economic measures, the Germans and the Japanese were amongst the biggest winners of WW2!
Economic advancement in the years after a war does not mean you won the war, it merely means you took full advantage of the peace after it.
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I'm inclined to think that Grest Britain was in fact the biggest loser in the WWII. Not only that the country suffered tremendous loses, but also, they had to give up colonies and dismantle the British Empire. Its influence has diminished as USA took its place as the most powerful country in the world, and Brits had to forge a good relation with USA and depended heavily on being allies with USA. What are your thoughts on this?
The Empire was dying before the war, the war merely accelerated the process.
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Old September 21st, 2017, 12:58 PM   #7

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The Empire was dying before the war, the war merely accelerated the process.

True, but it still could be saved if it wasn't for the war. After the war, Britain has different priorities and had to invest heavily into rebuilding the country and the economy.
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I prefer to see WW1 and WW2 as the same war with 20 years of peace in the middle. Was the British Empire declining already in 1914?
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Economic advancement in the years after a war does not mean you won the war, it merely means you took full advantage of the peace after it.
Better to lose the war and win the peace than to win the war and lose the peace, I reckon.
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Arguably, by economic measures, the Germans and the Japanese were amongst the biggest winners of WW2!
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