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Old October 11th, 2017, 02:39 PM   #1

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Hitler was appointed chancellor in 1933, but after Hindenburg's death in August 1934, the office of the Reichspresident was abolished and a new title - Führer und Reichskanzler - created for Hitler.

What's interesting is that he abolished the office of President, created a new title of the Fuhrer, but kept the office of chancellor (even if nominally).

In his testament, he split the two however, with Donitz taking over as President and Goebbels as Chancellor.
Of course, his testament did not have much political weight under the circumstances, as the Nazi regime was already collapsing, but what this tell about Hitler and the nature of his regime?

He did not appoint a new Fuhrer, but reverted to the system used under the Weimar Republic.
Perhaps one of the reasons behind it, he felt that nobody was worthy to succeed him.

Thoughts?

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That is one way of looking it, perhaps the goal was to make the two work together against a third contender? Some conflicts were certain, and a civil war highly likely, and I doubt that the testament was just drawn - the names may have changed but the rest must have been there for quite some time. Two official successors could stand a better chance than just one in the struggle to come.
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My two favourite Hitler titles were 'THE BOHEMIAN CORPORAL'-that Prussian old guard General Von Runstedt called him with contempt after D-Day and 'Schckelgruber the Austrain housepainte'r.
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I always have a liking for GROFAZ, Größter Feldherr aller Zeiten aka greatest leader in the world.

It was meant to be an adulatory term invented by the Nazi party, lets just say the way the German soldiers used it had a bit more bite.

So did the sentence you got if you were caught using it about the Fuhrer after its less than complimentary tone caught on.
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I always have a liking for GROFAZ, Größter Feldherr aller Zeiten aka greatest leader in the world.

It was meant to be an adulatory term invented by the Nazi party, lets just say the way the German soldiers used it had a bit more bite.

So did the sentence you got if you were caught using it about the Fuhrer after its less than complimentary tone caught on.
Greatest commander in chief of all times would be the translation.

It was actually a coined by OKW:s boss Field Marshal Wilhelm Keitel after the capitulation of France. Adulaton to be sure but mirrored the German public quite well. What Imperial Germany failed to do in 5 years at the cost of 1,5 million dead German soldiers, Hitler accomplished in 6 weeks at the cost of 30000 soldiers.
Small wonder the German people considered him to be a military genius.

It wasn't until things went south it became a thing of irony.
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There is also the title of First Soldier of the Reich. Ger. Erster Soldat des Deutschen Reiches

Interestingly, he was also invited to act as a protector of Mount Atos by the monks there and assume the title High Protector of the Holy Mountain (Hoher Protektor des heiligen Berges).
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Hitler was appointed chancellor in 1933, but after Hindenburg's death in August 1934, the office of the Reichspresident was abolished and a new title - Führer und Reichskanzler - created for Hitler.

What's interesting is that he abolished the office of President, created a new title of the Fuhrer, but kept the office of chancellor (even if nominally).

In his testament, he split the two however, with Donitz taking over as President and Goebbels as Chancellor.
Of course, his testament did not have much political weight under the circumstances, as the Nazi regime was already collapsing, but what this tell about Hitler and the nature of his regime?

He did not appoint a new Fuhrer, but reverted to the system used under the Weimar Republic.
Perhaps one of the reasons behind it, he felt that nobody was worthy to succeed him.

Thoughts?
He originally intended for Goering to succeed him, so initially he had plans to leave the Reich in the hands of one man. However, I assume Goering would have kept his Reichsmarschall title and not take the title of the Fuhrer out of respect for Hitler.
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Please be more careful in naming your threads.

I keep seeing "Hitler's titties".

It's quite disturbing actually.
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Please be more careful in naming your threads.

I keep seeing "Hitler's titties".

It's quite disturbing actually.
Me too! Motion seconded.
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He originally intended for Goering to succeed him, so initially he had plans to leave the Reich in the hands of one man. However, I assume Goering would have kept his Reichsmarschall title and not take the title of the Fuhrer out of respect for Hitler.
Yes, but both Goering and Himmler were expelled from the party.

How did it happen?

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