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Old December 25th, 2017, 03:16 PM   #1

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Who Was the Greatest English/British Monarch


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This question has been asked a lot, but I'd like to definitively put the debate to rest by bringing it to you, the historical community, that question being; "Who Was the Greatest English/British Monarch" (1066-Present).

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Old December 25th, 2017, 08:59 PM   #2
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I can't choose one overall. Each has to be judged relative to their historic period in terms of what would be expected of an English/British monarch of their respective time.

Norman: William I

Plantagenets: Henry II, Henry V

Tudor: Elizabeth I

Stuart: none

Hanover: Victoria

SCG-Windsor: Elizabeth II

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Old December 27th, 2017, 01:49 PM   #3

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Norman - Henry I Beauclerc

Angevin - Edward Longshanks

Tudor - Henry VII

Stuart - Charles II

Hanover - George II

Windsor - constitutional monarchs who don't do much politically, but the most loved/popular, possibly the current Queen.
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Of all time though, for me it's a toss up between Athelstan, Edgar the Peaceful, Edward Longshanks, Edward III, Henry VII, Elizabeth II, and Charles II.
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Henry II. During his reign England became a major European power.
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Henry II. During his reign England became a major European power.
I agree and for the same reasons. In addtion to England and Wales, he controlled half of France, Scotland and I believe Ireland.

I downgraded Edward I because after a brutal war to conquer Scotland, it was lost it to Robert the Bruce. Scotland remained independent (from 1603 in personal union with England under a Scotish dynasty), joining with England and Wales under the Act of Union in 1707.

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My shortlist would be Henry V, Henry VII, Edward III, William I, Henry VIII, Henry II and Elizabeth I. If I had a gun to my head and had to pick one it would be Henry V. Think all the post Stuart Kings are really tough to make a case for given their limited powers.

Just realized I put half of the Henry's on my shortlist, I guess that was a pretty successful regnal name.

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My shortlist would be Henry V, Henry VII, Edward III, William I, Henry VIII, Henry II and Elizabeth I. If I had a gun to my head and had to pick one it would be Henry V. Think all the post Stuart Kings are really tough to make a case for given their limited powers.

Just realized I put half of the Henry's on my shortlist, I guess that was a pretty successful regnal name.
English history is so popular among foreign amateur historians thanks undoubtedly to the fact that modern lingva anglorvm is a common lingva franca across the globe, but also due to many strong (and some weak) monarchs & important historical events - Duke William invasion, Magna Carta, rise of Elizabeth I as Queen. I personally prefer to read about Normans (House of Normandy) and Plantagenets. Please allow my to add Henry of Bolingbroke to your list of Henry's
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England - Edward III
GB - None.

George IIIs Britain was the greatest, Victoria’s too. But neither had much to do with it
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England - Edward III
GB - None.

George IIIs Britain was the greatest, Victoria’s too. But neither had much to do with it
As an anglophilic non-Brit I'm facinated by British governance, especially with the Hanover dynasty when Pariament first ruled. George III presided over 15 changes in government from 1760 until 1811 when the Regency was installed. Victoria presided over 20 changes of government. With George, only Lord North and William Pitt the Younger served long terms. Does the rise of Britain depend mostly on them? With Victoria no prime minister served more than 5 years in a term. Who's responsible for Victorian Britain's rise to imperial dominance in the world? Clearly Gladstone was responsible for progressive legislation but he wasn't much of an imperialist. Victoria herself planted her brood across the courts of Europe and restrained Palmerston's European interventionism on least two occasions. There's a parallel with the US which became a leading industrial power between 1865 and 1900. This was a period of a number of short term relatively weak presidents. Ever hear of Chester A Arthur?

My theory is that it was the LACK of strong governance in this period that let private interests loose to build and maintain the great British Empire.

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