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Old January 1st, 2018, 11:44 AM   #11

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Mate, you're 4 months early for April 1st. Even then it would be a bad joke.
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Old January 1st, 2018, 08:47 PM   #12
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Amazon (Ama-Zan).

The root 'Ama' is used for sister, and Zan, Zon, Zanė means 'goddess, 'nymph' in Albanian. Whereas 'Zot' means God and Za/Zė means Voice.

In the matriarchal time Amazon's didn't get married. They were our sisters. In the patriarchal times (Iron period), they startet to get married and became mothers. After the iron period, when indoeuropean languages got created, the root Am/Ma/Ama/Mama/Om/Mom/Mat/Mot.. was not used for sister as in the times of the Amazonas, but used for mother. Albanian is the only language, that still uses Mo-tėr, because it used to be the name of our sisters in matriarchal times when the Amazonas (female warriors from the Pelasgian Era) didn't get married and were called holy sisters (Ama-Zon).

'Mother' means in Albanian Nana/Nenė/Nona. It's incredible to see where this word comes from. It came out of a basic number. Number Nine (9). Nine in Albanian means Nana/Nenė/Nonė. After nine moons (months) of pregnancy, a female becomes a Nana. [Nė nentėn muaj] [in the ninth month].

Hana means moon in Albanian. Nana means mother. The Pelasgians used to believe that the moon is our mother and the sun stands for father.
1.The Amazons were located in Turkey according to the Ancient Greeks and Pelasgians. They also killed all their males and hunted new one to breed with and then kill, so no one was their brothers and Albanians are not from Turkey and so no relation to them.

2. The Amazons are a myth believed to be inspired by the real Scythians, Scythians were not Albanians. The Y-DNA of Scythians was almost exclusively R1a1, so Albanians are not Scythians either.

3. Pelasgians were from: Turkey; southern Greece and Crete.Albanians were never Pelasgians. This theory is so blatantly false that even at the Apricity Forum those posting it have their posts deleted.


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DEMETER = DHE+MITER= EARTH-UTERUS

The veneration of this well-known goddess of the earth, with her mystery plays in Eleusis, was also quite common in Illyria. Her name has to do with the Albanian word dhe, earth. Demeter, also called Damater, is thus literally Mother Earth, what describes exactly her role. It also corresponds to the Illyrian myth of creation, where the Earth as the basis of life gives birth to everything.

There is an inscription found near Plovdiv, Bulgaria, dedicated to Demeter, which, according to the albanologist Eqrem Ēabej, can best be explained by means of the Albanian language derived from the Illyrian. It is a formula of Demeter’s cult, the cult of the Earth seen as universal mother, and means: Earth, hold me / hold on to me! I invite you to try out this part of spirituality rooted in ancient Albania. Pronounce or sing these magical words, if possible outside, in touch with Mother Earth. Use it as a prayer or a mantra, as a guideline of your meditation, in order to come back to earth from your spiritual flights or when you are stressed, in order to feel better that we all are a part of this globe and to feel the security and power that emanates from the Earth. Be careful: these words may have strong effects. The ritual words of Demeter’s cult are: DA DALEME.

Mankind and Mother Earth: a narrative history of the world Arnold Joseph Toynbee. Oxford University Press, 1976: "Mother Earth has not engendered life by parthenogenesis. Life has been begotten on the biosphere through the fertilization of Mother Earth by a father: the Pharaoh Akhenaton’s Aton, the sun-disk, who is “the Unconquerable SUN”, “Sol Invictus”, of the Illyrian Roman Emperors from Aurelian to Constantine the Great".
1. Demeter is indeed a Pelasgian/Minoan deity, but this does not matter as the Albanians are not an offshoot of the Pelasgians. Hint: Minoan is not even an Indo-European language and Albanians don't look like known Pelasgian peoples.

2. No real connection of the Illyrians to Albanians either.

3. The Sol Invictus (Invincible Sun) cult or Rome has disputed origins. It's seen as either a continuation of the Roman cult of Sol or as aMiddle Eastern cult from Syria -again it has nothing to do with Albania except for spreading to there from Rome.

4. Aton has no connection to Sol invictus, besides being a solar cult and maybe monotheistic.





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"Pharaoh" comes from the Illyrian language and means: "our stock, our lineage". = "Fara jone".

Info: At(on) = OUR FATHER
Info: Demeter = DHE MITER = EARTH MOTHER
Info: Pharaoh = FARAJON = OUR SEED, LINEAGE
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Albanian is the oldest language in Europe. It's the mother of Latin and Greek. Albanian is a cosmic language and totally unique, and at the same time it is the only language, that keeps the other languages alive.
More false claims. If a language is the mother tongue of another language it will have a great influence upon it and not be "unique" from it. Albanian is pretty much spoken only by Albanians and so is not keeping any other language alive. What is a cosmic language?



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The region what is still inhabited by Albanians today, was part of all these periods:
• Old Europe : Paleolithic and Mesolithic (fully tribal hunter-gatherers; pre-Indo-Europeans)
• Middle Europe : Neolithic (Vinca, LBK, etc.) (adoption of agriculture and transition to civilisation; spread of Indo-Europeans)
• New Europe : Bronze and Iron Ages (Corded Ware, Battle-Axe, Kurgan) (full establishment of early civilisation; predominance of Indo-Europeans)
So was every other part of Europe. Corded ware culture and the Battle axe Culture are the same culture and Albania was in no way apart of it. Nor the Kurgan culture either. Indo-European was spread to Albania not the mother area of it.


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Albanian is the only Indo European language that has preserved the archaic structure of proto Aryan language. Albanian adjectives and ordinals come after the stressed nouns. The law formulated in 1892 by J. Wackernagel, according to which unstressed parts of the sentence tend to occupy a position after the first stressed word normally situated at the beginning of a sentence qualifies Albanian as the oldest living Indo European language.


Highly unlikely, especially as Indo-european was spread to Albania and we don't know the characteristics of the extinct and unknown language spoken in Albania to start with.


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In Albanian and in the Basque language, words were created in the territories of primitive Europe, long before the standard indoeuropean languages exited. So they were not included in the later indoeuropean vocabulary. The words are considered extremely ancient.
True, though no one knows where the Basque language is from and it might of been out of North Africa or Atlantis (if one thinks it was real).


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"First, it contained populations in the south and west Europe, who, being other than Indo-European, took the appearance of being aboriginal. Some of them were extinct. Others, however, survived. The Basks of the Pyrenees did this. So did the Albanians of Albania".

"These survived, because the inaccessible nature of their areas had preserved them".

"They survived, because woods and mountains had been to them what the cold of the Arctic Circle had been to the Laps, and his swamps and fens to the Finlander".

"They survived to suggest to ethnologists of the nineteenth century a time (long anterior to the dawn of history) when a complex series of kindred populations was continuously spread over all Europe, from Albania to Finland, from Spain to Scandinavia".
The Basques are mainly R1b, so not Native Europeans, but out of Asia like everyone R1b or R1a. The Native Europeans were Cromagnids and Alpinids. They were invaded from the Middle East by Mediterreanids (J2) and from the East by R1b and R1a types -go team R1a1 with RH- blood


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F. Ritter von Xylander (Die Sprache der Albanesen oder Schkipetaren, 1835), has elucidated this subject, and established the principal facts upon a firm basis. An account of the positions at which Xylander arrived will be found in : Prichard (The Physical History of Mankind, vol. iii. pp. 477-482).


F. Ritter von Xylander (Die Sprache der Albanesen oder Schkipetaren, 1835

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“Words of Albanian language, without substantial changes and partly from the root, we also found in other languages, as in the ancient Greek, new Greek, in Latin, in Romanian languages, in old and new German, Swedish, Danish, English, Slavic, Persian, Arabic, Celtic, Basque and ancient Indian language.

The extension suffix node and its more developed flexion, more than in Basque, Icelandic, Swedish and Danish, is not found in any of those languages that have influenced later on Albanian.

Compliance of Albanian with Persian and Sanskrit show about communion and direct than the intermediate relationship, common relations with the trunk than with the people who show up later in history … ”
True an Indo-european language is going to be related to other Indo-european languages however much an isolate it is.

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As a Brahman who's ethinic language is Sanskrit i agree.

Sanskrit (like hindi)came from Albanian language as well and we consider Albanian as holy language and Albania and Holy land and our fatherland.
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Old January 1st, 2018, 10:38 PM   #14

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Haven't we been down this road before? Change of username maybe?
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Old February 3rd, 2018, 08:58 AM   #15

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Mate, you're 4 months early for April 1st. Even then it would be a bad joke.
I see you're a slovenian, correct? You should be more thankful of albanian language, without it your slavic language would cease to exist.

Slavic, a Balticized Albanian? - Harvey E. Mayer

"Martynov (1981) says that Proto-Slavic is Italicized Proto-Baltic while Common Slavic is Iranicized Proto-Slavic. This is all based on lexicon. My suggestion that Slavic mainly reflects in its essence an original Pre-Albanian variant both phonologically and lexically with a huge superimposed Baltic lexical influence now extending into morphology rests on a broader and deeper linguistic base. With this, it offers some answers to some vexing questions.

Phonologically, Slavic and Albanian have the following notable ancient ties: 1. Th, TH to T, 2. Dh, DH to D (T = voiceless stop, D = voiceless stop, h = aspiration, H = laryn-geal), 3. s alternating with h (not true of Baltic), 4. reflexes of k' (g'(h) kept separate from those of the ruki law (not true of Baltic), 5. ks- to h- (not true of Baltic), a special, exclusive Albanian-Slavic reflex, 6. more cases of k', g'(h) to k, g than other satem languages including Baltic which shows sibilants instead (Shevelov 1965 for the Slavic).

Lexically, Slavic and Albanian correspondences minus Baltic ones outnumber Baltic and Albanian correspondences minus Slavic ones.3 This is striking when we consider that the opposite is true for Hittite and Tokharian.

This is evidenced by two ancient phonological differences: 1. Slavic's and Albanian's reflexes of k', g'(h) separate from those of the ruki law versus Baltic's early immediate merger of them into š/s, ž/z, 2. The special Slavo-Albanian reflex of ks-to h-: Russian dialect xinit' 'to condemn', Russian xilyj, xiloj 'sickly'; Albanian (h)unj, Shkoder ulj, ulem 1 belittle' where h-is from ks- if not kh- (Fasmer 1973; 236-8)5 versus Baltic's metathesis of original ks- to sk-t an ancient change predating the ruki law: Lithuanian skaudus 'painful' versus Slavic xudu 'bad' (Stang 1965:95).

I am grateful to Hamp for his remarks about Albanian. They helped me identify Pre-Slavic as a variant of Pre-Albanian and support the notion that it was originally significantly different from Pre-Baltic under whose influence it later fell. In a way, Slavic resembles English, a powerfully Romanized Germanic language. But where the situation with English has been relatively easily identifiable, the analogous situation with Slavic has been very elusive. This is not surprising. The influence of conservative Baltic gave Slavic a conservative appearance. The influence of innovative neighboring dialects and languages (Celtic, for example) on Albanian gave it a much changed appearance. The immediate reaction has been: Albanian and Slavic look so different while Baltic and Slavic seem so much alike.
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Please elaborate how exactly is it keeping the other languages alive?
I wasn't aware they were dying.
If you would read my post, the ancient Albanian language has influenced all other Indo-European languages so much that if Albanian never existed, not only the languages in Europe but even Europe itself would be drastically different to this day.

This is why I refer to Albanian as the Mother of all European languages, because without Albanian, the Indo-European language group would cease to exist. Albanian is the bind that ties all the Indo-European languages together, as the only thing they all share is the heavy ancient Albanian (Pelasgian) influence in each and every one of them.
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Haven't we been down this road before? Change of username maybe?
I doubt I am who you speak of, i'm fairly new on this forum and I am only using one account (this one).
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If you would read my post, the ancient Albanian language has influenced all other Indo-European languages so much that if Albanian never existed, not only the languages in Europe but even Europe itself would be drastically different to this day.

This is why I refer to Albanian as the Mother of all European languages, because without Albanian, the Indo-European language group would cease to exist. Albanian is the bind that ties all the Indo-European languages together, as the only thing they all share is the heavy ancient Albanian (Pelasgian) influence in each and every one of them.
Correct me if I'm wrong but Pelasgians are considered to be the pre-indo-european population in that area. How could they be the mother of the indo-european languages spoken in Europe today if they weren't indo-european.

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Word lists don't provide dates. The only way to date a language is if you have some sort of written documentation of that language.

Besides, the logic is flawed. If Albanian were the oldest language to have separated from some hypothetical Proto-Indo-European language, then it could not have given rise to the other languages that separated more recently. It would be less similar to the root language than those separating more recently.
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