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Old October 16th, 2006, 10:34 AM   #1

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October 16th 1793 : Marie-Antoinette is beheaded

Nine months after the execution of her husband, the former King Louis XVI of France, Marie-Antoinette follows him to the guillotine.

The daughter of the Holy Roman Emperor Francis I, she married Louis in 1770 to strengthen the French-Austrian alliance. At a time of economic turmoil in France, she lived extravagantly and encouraged her husband to resist reform of the monarchy. In one episode, she allegedly responded to news that the French peasantry had no bread to eat by callously replying, "Let them eat cake." The increasing revolutionary uproar convinced the king and queen to attempt an escape to Austria in 1791, but they were captured by revolutionary forces and carried back to Paris. In 1792, the French monarchy was abolished, and Louis and Marie-Antoinette were condemned for treason.
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Old October 17th, 2006, 06:06 PM   #2

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Heh, Off with her head!
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Old October 17th, 2006, 06:21 PM   #3

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I just saw a preview for a new movie about the famous queen- Link. It looks like two hours of anachronistic torture to me. My wife will love it.

One thing is for sure. Kirsten Dunst looks a heck of a lot better with her head than without.
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Hmmm...a dutiful mother but a poor ruler- in some way similar to Alexandria of Russia...
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She was the Paris Hilton of her times, i can only hope the same fate awaits our Marie-Antoinette

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Old September 22nd, 2010, 07:30 AM   #6

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60.000 died of famine in one year in Paris. I'm afraid that one decapitation wasn't enough
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Old September 22nd, 2010, 08:36 AM   #7

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She was the Paris Hilton of her times, i can only hope the same fate awaits our Marie-Antoinette

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I disagree. She wasn't as bad as the revolutionary propaganda made her out to be. IIRC, in her early years as Queen, she was often chastised by her French handlers for being too kind to the commoners. Her imprisonment was particularly harsh as well, I don't think anybody could comprehend her distress from being separated from here children and knowing she will probably never see them again or if they would survive as well, which her son sadly didn't.
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60.000 died of famine in one year in Paris. I'm afraid that one decapitation wasn't enough
Well, there was more than one. There were dozens, I believe - according to this, 100+:
[ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:People_executed_by_guillotine_during_the_ French_Revolution"]Category:People executed by guillotine during the French Revolution - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/ame]

Still, I don't think Marie Antoinette deserved her fate. I agree with Son of Cathal that her faults were exaggerated by propaganda. And the suffering she endured during her imprisonment in particular I think we would consider "cruel and unusual" these days.
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Old September 23rd, 2010, 12:50 PM   #9

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Well if you think that her being kind is payment enough for people who worked from dusk till down and still dieing of famine so that she can have every little luxury in the world and that she as a daughter of an Austrian monarch and a wife of French king had no influence well... Even if she wasn't spoiled rich brat how do you explain her apathy for troubles of common man.

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and also I don't think that she was ever near to any commoner, even her maidens and servants were at least Baronesses
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Well if you think that her being kind is payment enough for people who worked from dusk till down and still dieing of famine so that she can have every little luxury in the world and that she as a daughter of an Austrian monarch and a wife of French king had no influence well... Even if she wasn't spoiled rich brat how do you explain her apathy for troubles of common man.

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and also I don't think that she was ever near to any commoner, even her maidens and servants were at least Baronesses
Again, I think her life of luxury was exaggerated by propaganda, especially in later years when the economy was really suffering. Her spending and gambling did decrease greatly in later years. And in fact, there was a portrait done of Marie in a simple, plain muslin dress in attempts to show people she had changed - she was then criticized for dressing improperly for a queen! She couldn't win.

But even so, royalty have always lived luxuriously compared to commoners even during famine and economical hard times - Marie Antoinette was not the first or last. And I don't believe she was as apathetic as the propaganda suggested either. On the contrary, she was often criticized for being too kind and considerate to peasants and commoners, which was considered undignified for someone of her position (first Dauphine and then Queen). I believe she adopted several poor and needy children. She obviously had a certain level of contact with commoners or peasants.
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