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Old January 9th, 2018, 11:04 PM   #1
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Help in identifying a uniform please?


I recently came across this photograph of a family member, whose original nationality is a hotly disputed case amidst us. I believe that - by identifying where he served through figuring out what uniform this is - we'd be able to more accurately pinpoint where he was truly from.

Thanks in advance for any help you can offer.

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Old January 10th, 2018, 12:00 AM   #2

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I'm no expert, but the uniform looks English, pre WWI. The dark colour on the left hand man may suggest a rifle regiment , or maybe an Irish regiment.
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Old January 10th, 2018, 12:53 AM   #3

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They look like cavalrymen.
I’m not certain on nationality. They do look pre WW1, though if not major combatants, they could be from anywhere and from later. Late 20s even.

If he is a family member do you have starting points as to what nationality the different sides claim him to be. It might help narrow the search.

I’m leaning towards US army cavalry, but Canadian, British, Australian are all possible avenues.

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Old January 10th, 2018, 01:54 AM   #4

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Both guys may be as well be civilians. I've seen lot of similar pictures of a period of 20s in passed century. Civilians used to wear uniform only without military signatures.
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Old January 10th, 2018, 01:56 AM   #5

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Both guys may be as well be civilians. I've seen lot of similar pictures of a period of 20s in passed century. Civilians used to wear uniform only without military signatures.
That is possible. Neither seem to have any regimental badges.
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Old January 10th, 2018, 08:02 AM   #6

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The knee high boots and riding trousers certainly suggest cavalry. The high collars seem more distinctively European rather than British, and there is a crossed (?) insignia on the left collar tab. Rifles or Sabers? No rank or unit badges seen. The uniforms, especially the dark one appear to be a heavy wool worn against the cold.

The left figure is smoking a cigarette, that suggests late 19th century up until the end of the Great War.

I don't believe the uniforms are French, more probably Prussian or Austrian. Austrian uniforms of the time however tended to be a bit fancier. German? There are a number of other Continental militaries that are possible. Since the defeat of the French at Sedan, almost everyone rushed to copy the Prussian models, and that complicates things.

We need more information about the family and their legends to zero in better.
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Old January 10th, 2018, 08:33 AM   #7

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The absence of a heat doesn't help. The two guys wear quite common uniforms and in the age of the mass wars armies tent not to be too original with basic cloths and equipment ...

For example, the sitting guy is not so different from a WWI British soldier with a khaki uniform.
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Old January 10th, 2018, 08:37 AM   #8

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If the uniform is indeed Khaki. It might just as well be a lighter blue, green, or grey.

We are in agreement that the photo could be almost any European uniforms from circa 1900 to 1917-18, but probably prior to the Great War.
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Old January 10th, 2018, 02:45 PM   #9

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Crossed rifles would suggest US military. British rifle units had a hunting horn emblem Or a Maltese cross I believe. Again suggesting they might be US personel. Infantry officers? Not so sharp on us military uniforms.
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Old January 10th, 2018, 03:41 PM   #10

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Nope, those aren't US uniforms.
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