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Old January 12th, 2018, 01:51 AM   #1
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Slavery and the populations of Europe


I just wonder if some historians has done any studies in thÝs msubject. Slavery and slave trade was once widespread, and I would guess it has made large changes in the "composition" of european populations, and movements of slaves for sale in foreign areaseven more so than many more known migrations.
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Old January 12th, 2018, 02:46 AM   #2

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The Black Sea and the Adriatic Sea coasts traditionally gave good opportunities for slave traders. Slavery was so popular that sometimes the ban (ruler) of Bosnia sold his own people to Italian traders in medieval times.

https://www.jstor.org/stable/2581805...n_tab_contents

https://books.google.rs/books?id=00Z...page&q&f=false

http://knjizevnaistorija.rs/editions/146Detelic.pdf
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Old January 12th, 2018, 04:48 AM   #3
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The Black Sea and the Adriatic Sea coasts traditionally gave good opportunities for slave traders. Slavery was so popular that sometimes the ban (ruler) of Bosnia sold his own people to Italian traders in medieval times.
Let's go over your last sentence again.

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Slavery was so popular...
Popular among slave owners, but highly unpopular among slaves.

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...that sometimes the ban (ruler) of Bosnia sold his own people to Italian traders in medieval times.
He had to sell his own people, selling people he didn't own would have been fraud! A little joke about different meanings of the phrase "his own".
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Let's go over your last sentence again.



Popular among slave owners, but highly unpopular among slaves.



He had to sell his own people, selling people he didn't own would have been fraud! A little joke about different meanings of the phrase "his own".
Sure, but selling captives was far more common, at least in the medieval West Balkans
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The impact would have been to reduce the populations of the areas subject to slave taking, such as Russia, eastern Europe, and coastal Spain, Sicily and Italy. European countries, for the most part, did not import slaves.
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The impact would have been to reduce the populations of the areas subject to slave taking, such as Russia, eastern Europe, and coastal Spain, Sicily and Italy. European countries, for the most part, did not import slaves.
It depends on what your definition of european is. Ottomans owned a great chunk of the continent and over the course of three centuries crimean khanate, their vassal state, raided and pillaged eastern europe in order to feed ottoman market. Slave raiding & trade was the major source of income for the crimean tatars / business was quite profitable.

The importance of crimean slave trade for ottoman empire 1475-1774
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The Muslim took so many slaves that a special Order was founded to buy them back

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It depends on what your definition of european is. Ottomans owned a great chunk of the continent and over the course of three centuries crimean khanate, their vassal state, raided and pillaged eastern europe in order to feed ottoman market. Slave raiding & trade was the major source of income for the crimean tatars / business was quite profitable.

The importance of crimean slave trade for ottoman empire 1475-1774
My bad. I should have said "Christian European countries did not import slaves."
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My bad. I should have said "Christian European countries did not import slaves."
except those who did, such as Italian states (up to the 19th century).
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except those who did, such as Italian states (up to the 19th century).
Interesting. Any others?
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