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Old July 9th, 2018, 05:49 AM   #1

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Why did Franz von Papen wear a black at.band as Chancellor in 194ll


EDIT: THREAD TITLE SHOULD READ: Why did Franz von Papen wear a black armband as Chancellor in 1932?

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I've long wondered about this having seen various images of Franz von Papen with a black armband attached to his suit, in some images giving an address by radio or for film via a microphone.

Does anyone here know why he was wearing this black armband? You can see it on Google Images if anyone wants to search for it to see what I am referring to.

I take it that von Papen was protesting against something that he felt was an injustice against Germany? Perhaps it had something to do with the Treaty of Versailles. It can't have been German war reparations as I believe that his predecessor as Chancellor, Heinrich Bruning, had negotiated a moratorium on all German war debt and reparations in 1931.

If anyone out there can help with the reasoning behind the black armband I'd be most grateful!

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Black armband usually means mourning.


I'd check out if someone politically significant or a member of his family died around that time.
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Black armband usually means mourning.


I'd check out if someone politically significant or a member of his family died around that time.
Thanks for your suggestion, Nemowork. That's in fact the most likely explanation for von Papen's black armband.

I'll have to research it further. I do have a first edition copy of von Papen's Memoirs so perhaps that would be the best place to start.
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My guess would be that he was mourning Hindenburg in August 1934. I've seen black armbands for national leaders elsewhere. In particular there was one photo of British Army officers during the Boer War wearing armbands for Queen Victoria.
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My guess would be that he was mourning Hindenburg in August 1934. I've seen black armbands for national leaders elsewhere. In particular there was one photo of British Army officers during the Boer War wearing armbands for Queen Victoria.
Yes, that would be a good match. I thought the photos of von Papen with the black armband might have been from his time as Chancellor in 1932 but they could just as easily be later on than that.
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