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Old July 11th, 2018, 06:34 PM   #1
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the Roman Republic and Greek democracy


Why is not the Roman Republic a democracy?
Why the Greek democracy was not the republic?
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Old July 11th, 2018, 08:08 PM   #2
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In Athenian democracy decisions were made by votes of free men men over 21. The Roman Republic had some positions which were elected by Roman citizens, who were a minority of the population at most times. However, the Senate was aristocratic, and was the main power.
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Why is not the Roman Republic a democracy?
Why the Greek democracy was not the republic?
A republic is not necessarily a democracy. It may be any state where the head of state is not hereditary. There are many varieties of republics and methods by which offices are filled. Moreover, democracies may not be republics. For example the UK is a democracy governed by a popularly elected parliament under a constitutional monarchy which reigns but does not rule.

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Republics were generally not democracies. In those days poor people had little education. The Roman and Venetian Republics had all sorts of structures to prevent one man rule. In Rome there were offices elected by all citizens, but that wasn't required of a republic. In classical times republics were common, but until recently most governments were hereditary monarchies, but often the monarch did not have absolute power.

Britain today is often referred to as a constitutional monarchy, as well as a democracy. In the 18th century, it was controlled by the aristocracy. I am not sure if it is now completely a democracy with no power to the queen and aristocracy.
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Why is not the Roman Republic a democracy?
Why the Greek democracy was not the republic?

Sorry, that just sounds like "Why is the sky blue and the grass green?"



Different people come up with different ideas of how they want to organize themselves. In both cases the people doing the organizing wanted to STAY the people who were organizing. They may have made noises about sharing political power or "fairness", but the powerful never give up their power voluntarily.


The Athenians went for a balance among their "tribes" of citizens in order to prevent any single faction (and therefore individual man) from taking over entirely. The Romans carefully arranged their voting to give most of the electoral power to the upper classes.



The Greeks and Romans would have been horrified at the sorts of governments we have today.

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The Greeks and Romans would have been horrified at the sorts of governments we have today.

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As would the founding fathers of our own republic.
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