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Old July 13th, 2018, 08:47 PM   #1
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Greater Austria after 1918?


What if Catholic regions of Germany became parts of Austria after WW1?:

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These parts of South and West Germany could be annexed by Austria:

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In the immediate pre-Napoleonic period (1790s) Austria tried to swap teh Netherlands for Bavaria.
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If Hitler still came to power in Germany, would it have made a difference?
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If Hitler still came to power in Germany, would it have made a difference?

Germany would be weaker. Austria would be stronger. Given that Hitler fought in Bavarian troops and that is where the first Putsch (Beer Hall, in Munich) happened, instead of Nazi Germany we might have seen Nazi Austria. And that would have mixed the deck quite a lot.
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In the immediate pre-Napoleonic period (1790s) Austria tried to swap teh Netherlands for Bavaria.
Would it be correct to assume you mean the bit of Flanders and Wallonia that corresponds roughly to Belgium?
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Germany would be weaker. Austria would be stronger. Given that Hitler fought in Bavarian troops and that is where the first Putsch (Beer Hall, in Munich) happened, instead of Nazi Germany we might have seen Nazi Austria. And that would have mixed the deck quite a lot.
Nazi Austria wouldn't have had the power to conquer the rest of Germany, would it?
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Nazi Austria wouldn't have had the power to conquer the rest of Germany, would it?

They would have been more equal, yes, rather than having a powerful Nazi Germany and a small rump Austria, as happened in 1938. So regardless which of these two equal states Hitler would have risen on top of, I think it is less likely that the other one would have caved.
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They would have been more equal, yes, rather than having a powerful Nazi Germany and a small rump Austria, as happened in 1938. So regardless which of these two equal states Hitler would have risen on top of, I think it is less likely that the other one would have caved.
Agreed.

Also, I wonder if Britain and France would have been more willing to fight for Austria's/Prussia's independence in this scenario.
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Allies probably wouldn't have allowed it. They may have allowed parts of Germany to declare independence but probably would have required them to have limitations on their militaries.
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