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Old March 10th, 2011, 08:44 AM   #1
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Smile China has much more history resource books than all of the west


china has much more history resource books than all of the west
since Europe demised of the Roman, the cultural level is very low, because of the era of barbarians.until recent 500 years, it was not developed.but China has been leading the world in 2000. China's history, has a complete written records, history books as many as 300, and History of Europe lack of complete historical records, could only be imagined, (Europe +Islamic world)<China's historical records . European civilization, is apocryphal.

if you dont agree that, can you tell me more than 50 European medieval history books ?


china history resourse:
【正史类】
  201史记、史记集解、史记索隐、史记正义、读史记十表、史记疑问、前汉书、班马异同、后 汉书
  202后汉书、补后汉书年表、 两汉刊误补遗、三国志、三国史辨误、三国志补注、晋书、宋书、南齐书、梁书、陈书、魏书
  203魏书、北齐书、周书、隋书、南史、北史、旧唐书
  204旧唐书、新唐书、 唐书释音、新唐书纠谬、旧五代史、新五代史、五代史纂误、宋史
  205宋史、辽史、辽史拾遗
  206辽史拾遗、金史、元史、钦定辽金元三史国语解、明史
  207明史、
  【编年类】
  竹书纪年、竹书统笺、前汉纪、后汉纪、元经、唐创业起居注、资治通鉴
  208资治通鉴、资治通鉴考异、资治通鉴释例、资治通鉴目录、通鉴地理通释、通鉴释文辨误 、 通鉴胡注举正、稽古录、资治通鉴外纪、皇王大纪、中兴小纪、续资治通鉴长编
  209续资治通鉴长编、纲目续麟、纲目分注拾遗、纲目订误、大事记、建炎以来系年要录、 210建炎以来系年要录、九朝编年备要、续宋编年资治通鉴、西汉年纪、靖康要录、两朝纲目备要、宋季三朝政 要、宋史全文、资治通鉴前编、通鉴续编、大事记续编、元史续编、 御批历代通鉴辑览
  211御批历代通鉴辑览、御定资治通鉴纲目三编、皇清开国方略、资治通鉴后编
  【纪事本末类】
  通鉴纪事本末
  212通鉴纪事本末、春秋左氏传事类始末、 三朝北盟会编、蜀鉴、炎徼纪闻、宋史纪事本末、元史纪事本末、平定三逆方略、圣祖仁皇帝亲征平定朔漠方略、 钦定平定金川方略、平定准噶尔方略
  213平定准噶尔方略、 平定两金川方略、钦定剿捕临清逆匪纪略、钦定兰州纪略、钦定石峰堡纪略、钦定台湾纪略、绥寇纪略、滇考、明 史纪事本末、绎史
  214绎史、左传纪事本末、 平台纪略
  【别史类】
  逸周书、东观汉记、建康实录、隆平集、古史、通志
  215通志、东都事略、路史、钦定重订契丹国志、钦定重订大金国志、古今纪要、萧氏续后汉 书、 郝氏续后汉书
  216郝氏续后汉书、春秋别典、御定历代纪事年表、三元甲子编年、钦定续通志
  217钦定续通志、补历代史表、后汉书补逸、春秋战国异辞、 尚史
  【杂史类】
  国语、国语补音、战国策、鲍氏战国策注、战国策校注
  218战国策校注、贞观政要、渚宫旧事、东观奏记、五代史阙文、五代史补、北狩见闻录、松 漠纪闻、 燕翼诒谋录、太平治迹统类、咸淳遗事、大金吊伐录、汝南遗事、钱塘遗事、平宋录、弇山堂别集、革除逸史、钦 定蒙古源流、
  【诏令奏议类、一诏令之属】
  太祖高皇帝圣训、 太宗文皇帝圣训、世祖章皇帝圣训、圣祖仁皇帝圣训、世宗宪皇帝圣训、世宗宪皇帝上谕八旗、世宗宪皇帝上谕内 阁、世宗宪皇帝朱批谕旨
  219世宗宪皇帝朱批谕旨、唐大诏令集、 两汉诏令
  【诏令奏议类二、奏议之属】
  范文正奏议、包孝肃奏议集、尽言集、谠论集、左史谏草、商文毅疏稿、王端毅奏议
  220王端毅奏议、马端肃奏议、关中奏议、胡端敏奏议、 杨文忠三录、何文简疏议、垂光集、孙毅庵奏议、玉坡奏议、南宫奏稿、讷溪奏疏、谭襄敏奏议、潘司空奏疏、两 河经略、两垣奏议、周忠愍奏疏、张襄壮奏疏、靳文襄奏疏、 华野疏稿、宋名臣奏议、历代名臣奏议
  221历代名臣奏议、名臣经济录、名臣经济录
  222御选明臣奏议、
  【传记类一、圣贤之属】
  孔子编年、 东家杂记
  【传记类二、名人之属】
  晏子春秋、魏郑公谏录、李相国论事集、杜工部年谱、杜工部诗年谱、绍陶录、金佗?编、象台首末、魏郑公 谏续录、忠贞录、诸葛忠武书、 宁海将军固山贝子功绩录、朱子年谱

【传记类三、总录之属】
  古列女传、高士传、卓异记、春秋臣传、廉吏传、绍兴十八年同年小录、伊洛渊源录、宋名臣言 行录前集、 名臣碑传琬琰之集、钱塘先贤传赞、庆元党禁、宋宝佑四年登科录、京口耆旧传、昭忠录、敬乡录、唐才子传、元 朝名臣事略、浦阳人物记、古今列女传、殿阁词林记、 嘉靖以来首辅传、明名臣琬琰录、今献备遗、百越先贤志、元儒考略、钦定宗室王公功绩表传、定外藩蒙古回部王 公表传、钦定八旗满洲氏族通谱
  223钦定八旗满洲氏族通谱、 钦定胜朝殉节诸臣录、明儒学案、中州人物考、东林列传、儒林宗派、明儒言行录、史传三编、闽中 理学渊源考
  【传记类四、杂录之属】
  征南录、骖鸾录、吴船录、入蜀记、西使记、 保越录、粤闽巡视纪略、松亭行纪、扈从西巡日录
  【史钞类】
  两汉博闻、通鉴总类、南史识小录、北史识小录
  【载记类】
  吴越春秋、越绝书、华阳国志、邺中记、十六国春秋、
  224十六国春秋、别本十六国春秋、蛮书、钓矶立谈、江南野史、江南别录、江表志、江南馀载、三楚新录 、锦里耆旧传、五国故事、蜀梼杌、马氏南唐书、陆氏南唐书、吴越备史、 安南志略、十国春秋、附录、朝鲜史略、越史略
  【时令类】
  岁时广记、御定月令辑要
  【地理类一、宫殿簿之属】
  三辅黄图、禁扁、
  【地理类二、总志之属】
  元和郡县志、太平寰宇记、 元丰九域志、舆地广记、方舆胜览、明一统志
  225明一统志、大清一统志
  226大清一统志
  【地理类三、都会郡县之属】
  吴郡图经续记、乾道临安志、淳熙三山志、吴郡志、 新安志、剡录、会稽志、赤城志、宝庆四明志、海盐澉水志、景定严州续志、景定建康志、咸淳临安志、至元嘉禾 志、昌国州图志、延佑四明志、齐乘、至大金陵新志、无锡县志、 姑苏志、武功县志、朝邑县志、岭海舆图、滇略、吴兴备志
  227吴兴备志、钦定热河志、钦定日下旧闻考、钦定满洲源流考、钦定皇舆西域图志、钦定盛京通志、畿辅 通志、
  228畿辅通志、江南通志、江西通志
  229江西通志、浙江通志
  230浙江通志、福建通志、湖广通志、河南通志
  231河南通志、山东通志、山西通志
  232山西通志、 陕西通志
  233陕西通志、甘肃通志、四川通志、广东通志、广西通志
  234广西通志、云南通志、贵州通志、历代帝王宅京记、
  【地理类四、河渠之属】
  水经注、 水经注集释订讹、水经注释、吴中水利书、四明它山水利备览、河防通议、治河图略、浙西水利书、河防一览、三 吴水利录、北河纪、敬止集、三吴水考
  235三吴水考、 吴中水利全书、钦定河源纪略、仑昆河源考、两河清汇、居济一得、治河奏续书、直隶河渠志、行水金鉴、水道提 纲、海塘录
  【地理类五、边防之属】
  筹海图编、 郑开阳杂著
  【地理类六、山水之属】
  南岳小录、庐山记、赤松山志、西湖游览志、桂胜、钦定盘山志、西湖志纂
  【地理类七、古迹之属】
  洛阳伽蓝记、吴地记、长安志、洛阳名园记、 雍录、洞霄图志、长安志图、汴京遗迹志、汴京遗迹志、武林梵志、江城名迹、营平二州地名记、金鳌退食笔记、 石柱记笺释、关中胜迹图志
  【地理类八、杂记之属】
  南方草木状、 荆楚岁时记、北户录、桂林风土记、岭表录异、益部方物略记、岳阳风土记、东京梦华录、六朝事迹编类、会稽三 赋、中吴纪闻、桂海虞衡志、岭外代答、都城纪胜、梦粱录、 武林旧事、增补武林旧事、岁华纪丽谱、吴中旧事、平江记事、江汉丛谈、闽中海错疏、蜀中广记、益部谈资、颜 山杂记、岭南风物记、龙沙纪略、台海使槎录、 东城杂记
  【地理类九、游记之属】
  游城南记、河朔访古记、徐霞客游记
  【地理类十、外纪之属】
  佛国记、大唐西域记、宣和奉使高丽图经、诸蕃志、溪蛮丛笑、真腊风土记、岛夷志略、 朝鲜赋、海语、东西洋考、职方外纪、赤雅、朝鲜志、皇清职贡图、坤舆图说、异域录、海国闻见录
  【职官类一、官制之属】
  唐六典、翰林志、麟台故事、翰苑群书、南宋馆阁录、 玉堂杂记、宋宰辅编年录、秘书监志、翰林记、礼部志稿
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Old March 10th, 2011, 09:04 AM   #2

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Well i can't support you in this statement. There are dozens if not several hundreds of Medieval books which try to portray a world history, or a history of a particular kingdom. An important characteristic of European historiography is that is supported by extensive sources, probably because the very intense research that historians have been doing for the last centuries. A job that other regions of the world, because economical problems, only have begun recently.

One of the main problems of Chinese history is that for several times in its history, the centralized power have ordered to destroy massivelly books and texts of history and culture, in a scale that outside China any other event of these characteristics palished in comparation.

However, the bulk of history is usually get by very common sources as military, economic or property registers. I don't know the situation right now in China, but in comparation to the West these sources are highly underexploited. I've read from some Chinese guys that they have massive accounts of these characteristics, that historians have worked it only lightly.

I'm sure that in the future this would bring very useful information about Chinese history. And surelly the amount of this information avalaible for China in the period between Tang and Yuan is far greater than that of Europe for the Middle Ages, at least until 1300.
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If you mean sequential descriptions (of wars fought, rulers' lives, the founding of cities, lists of bulls, statues, and legal documents) that were written by a contemporary of the time he was writing about, then Europe has many hundreds or even thousands of such chronicles. In some cases, each city has a complete MSS collection, usually on parchment roll located in the state archive. Correspondence is another valuable source of evidence that clarifies historical context.
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Looks like more than 50 to me. Well done German efficiencey
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Agree Star of Genoa, in a quick research i've found at least 40 major Chronicles of Castile or Aragon. This not count less quality ones or regional chronicles. For example only for the Canary islands where i live, there are 10-12 regional chronicles dated in the Late Middle Ages.

This means that we are talking about thousands of chronicles of some importance for the entire continent.
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China's history books are much better organized due to the nature of how their history evolved... that and since the language evolved on a very consistent line it helps too, you don't need to learn about 50 different (and more than half of them extinct) languages to see through all the records. you just need one.

They have advantages in that , their sources are much much easier to access nowadays . though there are disadvantages as well, less pictural depiction for one thing, and the centralized nature have it's problems in that some things (hint.. military manuels) are considered (logically) as classifed and controlled material thus they rarely survive.
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Just because Rome ended, does not mean we all forgot how to write. The Irish, for one group alone, had their Golden Age, during the Dark Ages. And there are hundreds of Histories in Ireland alone from the Medieval period. The Annals of the Four Masters is the most famous one. Here's a link -

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One of the main problems of Chinese history is that for several times in its history, the centralized power have ordered to destroy massivelly books and texts of history and culture, in a scale that outside China any other event of these characteristics palished in comparation.
Not necessarily. The only known large scale book burning was during the reign of Qin Shi Huang. Most other Emperors embraced learning and encouraged the writing of boos, save those that criticize their reign. However even criticisms like Sima Qiang's chronicles about the reign of Wudi was not suppressed by the Emperor. Each dynasty usually employs writers to document complete histories of previous dynasties (Twenty-Four Histories). Even the Yuan Dynasty commissioned the Book of Song. There are hundreds of other histories about dynasties and emperors. The Qing Dynasty suppressed books that would damage its reign for mostly left scholars alone. In fact the Yongzhen and Qianlong Emperor built massive library collections of histories for scholars to access.
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All hail China. Bow down before her Imperial might and the quality of her history books. So much more cultured than us uncouth barbarians.

Even if she is a black hole.
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I think he wants to start a measuring contest now what is it they say about the Chinese and the size of a certain organ????
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