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Old April 11th, 2011, 05:25 AM   #1
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Why was Europe divided?


It is a heated topic in China.
After Roman empire Europe got divided.On the contrary,China became a unified country after Qin.

What are the rationales?
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Old April 11th, 2011, 05:35 AM   #2

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Firstly, welcome.

How do you - or generally the discourse in china - mean "united" with regards to europe? It seems as if you're saying that under the Roman Empire europe was united?
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Firstly, welcome.

How do you - or generally the discourse in china - mean "united" with regards to europe? It seems as if you're saying that under the Roman Empire europe was united?

Roman Empire united most parts of Europe, Didn't it?

Anyway,the tendency of Europe is secession but that of China is unification.

what are the driving forces of the two progresses?
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Roman Empire united most parts of Europe, Didn't it?

Anyway,the tendency of Europe is secession but that of China is unification.

what are the driving forces of the two progresses?
The roman empire streched over the south-western parts of europe and the northern parts of africa and the western parts of asia minor.

The north-eastern parts where untouched by the empire. Also, the roman empire was going through different stages. Rome wasnt just the capital. There was rome and then italian cities that held allegience to rome. and then provinces with roman colonies (the german city name "cologne" comes from the latin "Colonia Claudia Ara Agrippinensium", it was a roman colony)
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In most time of China's history,at least more than half,it depends on how to count,China is unified especially in the center of the civilization .But it is completely different in Europe.
I don't want to go to the details,because it is not my topic.

China has almost the same size and similar cultural diversity as Europe,so we can make a comparison.
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What is/was there to unify Europe in the post Roman period?

Certainly no adequate infrastructure
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What is/was there to unify Europe in the post Roman period?

Certainly no adequate infrastructure
Why not just build the infrastructure? Qin Shi Huang took many measures to maintain the rule.
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Why not just build the infrastructure? Qin Shi Huang took many measures to maintain the rule.


Easier said than done.


one cant just snap ones fingers at hey presto it appears. A polity just does not develop overnight, it takes timem and grows naturally. The First Emperor had the connvenience of the other states already having well defined and adequate infrastructures in place to use or adapt. When you have had your infrastructure wiped out and annihilated its a lot harder, you have noting to work with, you have to build up from nothing. A much harder and longer process.

How long did it take for Qin to develop its infrastructure?
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