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Old July 3rd, 2011, 09:15 PM   #1

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Recently I have been reading a lot on Peter the Great and I am quite curious as to how the Tsar is viewed in Russia today. Is he viewed as a hero? A villain of the old regime?
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Old July 3rd, 2011, 10:57 PM   #2

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A villain of the old regime? You mean of imperial Russia?
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Old July 4th, 2011, 03:51 AM   #3

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A villain of the old regime? You mean of imperial Russia?
Considering he was a Tsar of Imperial Russia one would think that is exactly what I mean.
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Being a Tsar doesn't always mean he's a bad guy.
Iranians nowadays still respect Shah Abbas , Ismail and the sorts.
Just not a particular Shah Pahlavi
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Old July 4th, 2011, 04:09 AM   #5

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No, no, I think he would be seen as a hero, just because he was a Tsar doesn't mean he would get a bad reputation. Maybe if this was 18', or 42', or 63'. But it's 2011.
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No, no, I think he would be seen as a hero, just because he was a Tsar doesn't mean he would get a bad reputation. Maybe if this was 18', or 42', or 63'. But it's 2011.
That's my feeling too, but it's hard to find anything on the web as to how he's viewed today. And I don't know anyone from Russia.
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Old July 4th, 2011, 05:32 AM   #7

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Considering he was a Tsar of Imperial Russia one would think that is exactly what I mean.
Not quit. When somebody speak about "old regime" in this part of Europe, it means USSR. Socialism.

Connecting old regime with Peter the Great as villain was somehow strange to me.

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That's my feeling too, but it's hard to find anything on the web as to how he's viewed today. And I don't know anyone from Russia.
Peter the Great was and is viewed as one of the greatest monarchs of Russian history. And European history. You can find statues of him standing all over Russia. Always were, even during Socialism. True, they renamed Petrograd to Leningrad, but he newer was "villain". Not even during Stalinism.

There was always sort of rift between Western oriented and more conservative oriented currents in Russia politics. Even during his reign and before. He of course was "Westernizer" so there is some kind of controversy from this point of view depending on if you are one who thinks Russia should go its own way or that it needs to adopt Western ideas to modernise. But I doubt somebody in Russia today view him as "villain of the old regime".

Besides, attitudes of Russians to old czarist Russia definitely turned better during last two decades. It and its rulers are for sure not vilified. Quit contrary.

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Im not a russian, but i've heard that russians do "rediscover" there imperial past, and many of them are very prould with there tzars, especially Peter I.

During the communism not everyone who was involved with the tzarist Russia was portrayed as a villien. I've heard that Stalin himself had a lot of prise and respect for people like Alexander Suvorov or Mikhail Kutuzov for example.
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Also Alexander Nevsky. One of the Red Army orders was named after him. In fact it was one which was preserved from czarist Russia.
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Old July 5th, 2011, 10:31 AM   #10

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If Tsar Peter were alive today, he might be asked to go onto the Dr Phil show.

I dont think he would like what Dr Phil might have to say.
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