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August 7th, 2011, 01:19 AM
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#11 | | Historian
Joined: Jun 2010 From: England Posts: 1,754 | Quote:
Originally Posted by Kiki19  Monarchs fascinate me. To have so much power and position is daunting...and many failed and many succeeded. I never get bored with royalty! | This is my feeling as well - most monarchs are born into their situation and I find it fascinating to see, good or bad, what each one does with that power.
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August 7th, 2011, 02:13 AM
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#12 | | Ex Cold War Warrior
Joined: Mar 2011 From: North East England Posts: 3,031 | Quote:
Originally Posted by Kiki19 Monarchs fascinate me. To have so much power and position is daunting...and many failed and many succeeded. I never get bored with royalty! | Most failed to some extent. the sucessful monarchs are very few.
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August 7th, 2011, 02:27 AM
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#13 | | Scholar
Joined: May 2008 Posts: 748 |
I really don't think there should be a hockey team in Los Angeles in the first place. If it doesn't snow in your city, you don't deserve an NHL team.
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August 7th, 2011, 02:31 AM
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#14 | | Ex Cold War Warrior
Joined: Mar 2011 From: North East England Posts: 3,031 | Quote:
Originally Posted by throughthepastdarkly I really don't think there should be a hockey team in Los Angeles in the first place. If it doesn't snow in your city, you don't deserve an NHL team. | Is this in the wrong forum?.
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August 7th, 2011, 02:36 AM
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#15 | | vincit omnia veritas
Joined: Feb 2011 From: England Posts: 4,003 | Quote:
Originally Posted by tjadams To have a king or queen assume power on account of birth, is nothing to be admired. | It's not just monarchy, you're not going to tell me that being Bush Jnr had no bearing on him ending up president.
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August 7th, 2011, 03:17 PM
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#16 | | bloody
Joined: Apr 2011 From: Sarmatia Posts: 3,590 |
Well, in Poland since the 14th century we had kings who were elected and treated as highest officials but elected for life. As said one of Polish 16th century politicians "We are the Republic under presidency of king".
So as such we considered them as officials who were better or worse able to fulfil their duties. And thats all, they were not "Dei gratia".
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August 7th, 2011, 03:50 PM
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#17 | | Citizen
Joined: Aug 2011 From: Atlanta, Georgia Posts: 20 |
I personally have no problem with kings, as long as they lead with principle and fairness, I find them to be quite useful. The only problem with a lot of kings is that they abuse the power they are given and only use it to benefit themselves and their proteges.
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August 7th, 2011, 04:08 PM
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#18 | | Bard of Borneo
Joined: Oct 2007 From: Borneo~ that big Island in S.E. ASIA Posts: 8,394 | Quote:
Originally Posted by Vladd It's not just monarchy, you're not going to tell me that being Bush Jnr had no bearing on him ending up president. | Quote:
Originally Posted by Colby4780 The only problem with a lot of kings is that they abuse the power they are given and only use it to benefit themselves and their proteges. | See the link? Cronyism and nepotism are not solely a monarchical attribute.
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August 7th, 2011, 04:12 PM
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#19 | | Guardian Knight
Joined: Oct 2010 From: USA Posts: 7,745 |
These people had their time, and they were needed for societies to be kept under control, but that time has passed. Today democracy overrules the wishes of any one person. The idea of the monarch who should be obeyed because of whom his parents were just doesn't work any more.
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August 7th, 2011, 04:13 PM
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#20 | | This title is too lo
Joined: Apr 2010 From: T'Republic of Yorkshire Posts: 15,956 |
Kings are okay... but aces are better.
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