First Time Europeans banded together ? - Historum

**Mohammed the Persian** · August 23rd, 2011, 12:58 PM

When was the First Time Europeans banded together for a common cause ? I'm aiming for a military-campaign style but culturally, ok

I think of the Crusades..

**Isoroku295** · August 23rd, 2011, 01:03 PM

Crusades o3o

**DreamWeaver** · August 23rd, 2011, 01:05 PM

The Crusades does come to mind......I shall have to think of anything that may have occurred earlier.

Debates over what does/does not constitute Europe/Europeans will ensue I expect.

**Naomasa298** · August 23rd, 2011, 01:10 PM

When has Europe ever banded together for a common cause?

**General Michael Collins** · August 23rd, 2011, 01:12 PM

First Crusade, I would think.

I don't think the Roman army qualifies as European - there had not yet been a rise of the nation state.

**General Michael Collins** · August 23rd, 2011, 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Naomasa298

When has Europe ever banded together for a common cause?

Good point

What time does the next war start at?

**Naomasa298** · August 23rd, 2011, 01:18 PM

I'm not just being facetious either. Most of the time when there have been grand alliances of "European" nations, it's usually been to fight other European nations. The early Crusades may be regarded as an exception to this but the Crusaders still spent a lot of time at each other's throats.

Even the Fourth Crusade managed to get diverted from its goal of fighting the Muslims into fighting other Christians.

**DreamWeaver** · August 23rd, 2011, 01:20 PM

Ideologically? Even if not practically.

**General Michael Collins** · August 23rd, 2011, 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by DreamWeaver

Ideologically? Even if not practically.

Well, I guess that would be Christianity, wouldn't it?

Krystian · August 23rd, 2011, 01:39 PM

There has absolutely never been anything in which all europeans participated, only groups of a few nationalities or states.

Considering that most modern europeans are actually descendands of the barbarians which invaded the Roman Empire in the 4th to 6th centuries i would propose the so-called "the great migration of peoples" as the very first common action/goal of europeans.