Perix

deppend! For class i pupils:
- romanians are/were vlachs
- vlachs could be not romanians, with the condition they are not timok vlachs(serbians and bulgarians just speculate the thing..)
- etc

Ficino

I meant Romanians in the broad meaning, not Daco-Romanians. Yes, there are Vlachs who are not Daco-Romanians, but related to them, whilst Timok Vlachs are Daco-Romanians, of Oltenian type.

bilbil

Hmmm, Ficino, Please reread mine post on pages 42 and 43 one more time. You miss the point. So, the point is, if someone see Bulgarians from theme Boulgaria same as people from today Bulgaria



then we must see people from the theme Macedonia same with people of today Macedonia. That is absolutely and completely wrong, viewed historically and geographically. How people from middle age period described themselves you had written in the book on page 42 http://www.historum.com/european-his...ml#post1023131

If the book is so small and you can’t read it, press Ctrl and roll mouse’s wheel to zoom in the picture of the book . So, They described themselves as Romans.

This is the territory of upraising by Peter_Delyan--- . (theme Boulgaria)


On this territory (today Albania, R. Macedonia, Montenegro, Serbia and part in Bulgaria) people considered themselves Bulgarians, Romans from the theme Boulgaria (Slavs). They were completely different from Bulgars (people of Turk origin). So, we must not put sign equal between middle age Bulgarians and today Bulgarians. As I see we have same views. No one have monopoly on the middle age history, she belong to all of us.

Ficino, welcome on this forum. Your nickname on Vlachian- vicin- mean neighbor. Is it same on Romanian? My wife is Vlachian or as they called themselves Arm’n (Aroman)

Ficino

Yes, the Romanian word for "neighbour" is "vecin". BTW, if your wife is Aromanian, I can recommend this website: http://www.proiectavdhela.ro/. Most material is in standard Romanian, but some Aromanian texts can also be found: http://www.proiectavdhela.ro/index.p...eratura&lang=1.

Perix

I asume Ficino username is this:

bilbil

Time to go back to the right subject. We began discussion for Delchev and I would like to continue on it.
http://www.historum.com/european-his...ml#post1013345

Delchev, as Shturm had written was Bulgarian. Let's see what Delchev wrote

Надали има народ, който толкова много да е търпел от своите синове изроди, колкото македонския!... Що да се прави? ... Добре си направил, че си дал такива наставления на габровските селени. Горките — претъмнело им, искат по-скоро да се избават.
Писваш ми за телеграмите, пратени против началника; българските партизанства са такива, че човек отвращава се и от честните елементи, и от привържен[и]ци на правителството, и [от] самото правителство. Нека началника не се страхува от уволнение, защото не верват на депешите; разбойника знае, че е и другарите му са разбойници.


Is there nation who suffered more from their own sons freaks (traitors) than Macedonian.



разбойника знае, че е и другарите му са разбойници.
Goce see Bulgarians as bandits?????

His nickname was Achile, not Kubrat khan or Telerig khan or Asparuh.

pustinyak

Ok let's assume that he clearly makes distinction between Bulgarians and Macedonians and this letter proves that Georgi identifies as Macedonian so how can you explain other letter in which he clearly says he is Bulgarian or that he is part of organization describing itself as Bulgarian also described by other as Bulgarian ?

Btw how does this brave Macedonian warrior who opened the thread has Albanian name ?

Glowin

I don't think that there is a difference in Serbian language between Bulgars and Bulgarians. Or am I wrong?

How do you spell/call Bulgars in Macedonian or Buglarian? It may be easier for me to make a connection.

KGB

1/ The text of Delhcev is written in pure Bulgarian.

2/ All the Bulgarians often say: Macedonias - when they mean Macedonians - meaning the Macedonian part of the Bulgarian ppl;

3/ What Delchev writes about is the political struggles of Macedonia against the Turks. There is no Macedoni vs.Bulgaria context of this letter - so saying "Macedonians" Delchev means simpy people of Macedonia.

Which is Bulgarian, as well as Delchev himself.

Glowin,

now in Maceodnia they say Bugari - after Serbian. But Delchev in his other letters says simply Българи.

In Eglish yoo can say Bulgarians or Bulgars - it is the same.

Macedonia has a huge problem, indeed - the elite tries to build a nation on a huge lies, following the Komintern. It is a huge mistake, a historical one and now is the last chance to correct it. Or the Balkans will be burned again, God forbid...

KGB

Brother, the explanation is very simple - there was not any idea about Bugarians vs.Macedonians paradigma, when Delchev lived. In the beggining of the 2th Century Stoyan Novakoich`es ideas was forgotten even in Serbia.

For Delchev Macedonians and Bulgarians is the same - he doesn`t even think about that. He fights for Macedonian region of the Bulgarian nation, so he writes - Macedonia and Macedonians.

As well as a German would write - Bavarians.