European Ethnicities in Danger of Extinction - Historum

Bahadir · September 10th, 2011, 02:19 PM

So far I heard a few such as

,

,

and

. Any other you know, we can share and discuss here...

**Robert165** · September 10th, 2011, 02:35 PM

i predict, a 1000 years from now "normal" ethnic minorities will be gone
you'll only be baclk/white/asian etc
if you were eningeered to be so....

**Earl_of_Rochester** · September 10th, 2011, 02:53 PM

Isn't it a little ridiculous to suggest 'ethnic' clans exist in Europe? Especially Spain. Are they trying to claim that their entire ancestry can be traced back unblemished for 1000 years? Even then they'd still have another 1000 years of Roman, Greek, Gothic and Persian bloodlines to contend with.

EoR

**Sargon of Akkad** · September 10th, 2011, 02:58 PM

Why is it that its perfectly acceptable to think of non-Europeans as having ethnicities, but not for Europeans?

Yaunâ · September 10th, 2011, 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Sargon of Akkad

Why is it that its perfectly acceptable to think of non-Europeans as having ethnicities, but not for Europeans?

Because we are obsessed with blood and genetic fantasies when speaking about ethnicities.

Bahadir · September 10th, 2011, 03:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robert165

i predict, a 1000 years from now "normal" ethnic minorities will be gone
you'll only be baclk/white/asian etc
if you were eningeered to be so....

I believe there always be group of people who try to preserve their customs, language and religion. Maybe in furure today what we call Russian will subject to extinction.
Here is website with photos showing the customs of Seto people;
http://setofoto.wordpress.com/

**Ri Fhionngaill** · September 10th, 2011, 03:08 PM

Speaking as a member of one of these 'ethnicities' I can say that there are thousands of them, and most of the people involved put their livelihoods first and their language second. That's why activist attempts to 'restore' languages often fail: the people who speak them don't care.

Fortunately, with Gaelic this generation is more confident than the last. They don't have the cherished memories of being beaten up at school for speaking their native tongue. But other European languages without a diaspora to fuel their national pride where the community is not so passionate about their heritage? No: they won't last.

**Mosquito** · September 10th, 2011, 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Bahadir

So far I heard a few such as Lapps or Sami people, Aragoneses, Vepsians(nearly extincted) and Setos. Any other you know, we can share and discuss here...

Yes, this minority in Germany:

Sorbs

**Earl_of_Rochester** · September 10th, 2011, 08:33 PM

I'd say they were cultural minorities, not ethnic. There's no way someone's forefathers married people of the same race for over 2000 years, unless they live on Christmas Island (or The Ilse of Sheppey).

In Europe, especially Western Europe, it would be largely impossible because of the great migrations, Roman colonisation, Vikings, Saxons, Goths, Vandals etc etc. Then look at the massive population increase from across Europe with countries of a few hundred thousand in 1700 to millions by the 1900s and the steady movement from country to town. They'd hardly remain with the same people let alone 'racial group'. Not to mention most people can only trace their family tree back a few generations anyway, once you're off the Church records you could be related to anyone.

I'm Count Bohemond of Taranto's great, great, great x 12 grandson by the way.

EoR

**clement** · September 10th, 2011, 08:35 PM

Is "European" an ethinicity ? Because if it is, we may have an answer to the question.