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Old July 15th, 2012, 05:16 AM   #211

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WHY do we have to choose? Why must we choose one of our children to die?
Because your numbers are dwindling, and your position of power is weak. The Unionist majority stands at about 50, 000. There'll probably be more in Croke Park next week for the Meath v. Dublin game.
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It is true with Fenianism gone we no longer have to protect our identity quite so vociferously but the Orange Order is a worldwide organisation which has actually expanded in recent years.
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We are less threatened now than we've ever been and can just celebrate in peace.
The Orange Order is a protestant supremacist organisation, bigots all, and it has no place in the modern world. The image of cultural celebration is a veneer long touted by Unionists, but never believed by anyone. You fellas are more than capable of embarrassing yourselves whenever you get together.

Take for instance, this lovely parade a mere 3 days ago. A Unionist Band, Shankhill YCV, stopped outside a Roman Catholic Church and circled around for several minutes, playing the "Famine Song", a song which mocks the deaths of a million Irish people in the greatest tragedy ever to befall the Irish nation. And then, members of this charming group dedicated to celebrating their culture attacked an innocent Irish citizen (a real one, not a quasi Brit) for videoing their vile actions. Don't take my word for it, watch yourself.


Or how about the new slogan of the Orange Order, "Kill all Taigs" ?

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Or the burning of the names of those murdered by British paratroopers, not to mention the burning of Irish (and Polish) flags or symbols?

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Irish Unionists have been intermarrying and interbreeding with the pre-plantation Irish for centuries, no one is more Irish than anyone else, our culture is just as valid and part of the Irish identity as everyone elses. Or should we kick all those Gaels out and leave Ireland to the true Irish, the Scots?
Not as long as you're loyal to another nation its not.

By the by, the Scots is just another name for the Gaels, there were people here prior to them obviously but Scots equals Gaels.

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So unemployment is still rising? And we haven't even finished the Euro crisis yet. I think we can expect to see a lot more of our countrymen coming over to England, Scotland and Wales
Possibly. There are lots of your countrymen here of course. English, Welsh and Scots have been the most common immigrants here for quite some time.
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Old July 23rd, 2012, 02:33 AM   #212

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Because your numbers are dwindling, and your position of power is weak. The Unionist majority stands at about 50, 000. There'll probably be more in Croke Park next week for the Meath v. Dublin game.


The Orange Order is a protestant supremacist organisation, bigots all, and it has no place in the modern world. The image of cultural celebration is a veneer long touted by Unionists, but never believed by anyone. You fellas are more than capable of embarrassing yourselves whenever you get together.

Take for instance, this lovely parade a mere 3 days ago. A Unionist Band, Shankhill YCV, stopped outside a Roman Catholic Church and circled around for several minutes, playing the "Famine Song", a song which mocks the deaths of a million Irish people in the greatest tragedy ever to befall the Irish nation. And then, members of this charming group dedicated to celebrating their culture attacked an innocent Irish citizen (a real one, not a quasi Brit) for videoing their vile actions. Don't take my word for it, watch yourself.

Orange Order playing the Famine Song at St Patricks Church, New Lodge, 12/07/2012 - YouTube

Or how about the new slogan of the Orange Order, "Kill all Taigs" ?

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Or the burning of the names of those murdered by British paratroopers, not to mention the burning of Irish (and Polish) flags or symbols?

Click the image to open in full size.



Not as long as you're loyal to another nation its not.

By the by, the Scots is just another name for the Gaels, there were people here prior to them obviously but Scots equals Gaels.



Possibly. There are lots of your countrymen here of course. English, Welsh and Scots have been the most common immigrants here for quite some time.
So we should cease to exist because we're 'weak'? That's not an argument against our existence but a fond hope on your part that you can extreminate us!

In the Northern Ireland assembly there are 43 SF/SDLP, 54 Unionists and 8 Alliance (who say they'll back any majority decision). Irish Unionism is more secure now than it has been in centuries.

The Orange Order is not a supremacist organisation but one that proclaims it's right to exist in the face of folks like you who deny it!

A 'real' Irish person? You mean someone like YOU? And here's me thinking we lived in a multi-cultural society where everyone was free and equal? But I suppose you'd consider that an 'Orange Order attitude' or 'Brit-think'?

The Bloody Sunday thing and the Famine Song are aimed at Irish Nationalisms exploitation and hypocrisy over both (that we were no different from everyone else, that Unionists suffered too, that the IRA murdered 60 people in the period before Bloody Sunday who Irish Nationalism tries to ignore whilst bleating on about those killed in a gunbattle started by the IRA etc). Note the petrol bomber and mass murdering terrorist Martin McGuiness in the effigy with his gun, bringing that point across? The Kill All Taigs thing is wrong but remember how the people of the Shankhill have suffered at the hands of Irish Republicanism? Also, nothing to do with the Orange Order and certainly not their motto, that would be a loyalists. But even they've given that up now the IRA have surrendered.

What Polish symbols? The tricolour is the symbol of Irish republicanism (flown by the Easter Risers and symbol of terror and murder to Irish Unionists), the Union Jack is equally the Irish flag.

We're not loyal to 'another' nation, Britain encompasses us all. Or must people choose between being Irish or Dubliners? British or European?

Actually Scot is the Roman term for 'pirate'? The Gaels came to Ireland from the Iberian Penninsula, there were people here before then who built Newgrange. No one is more Irish than anyone else.

Glad to see there are so many people from Great Britain in the South. The bonds of blood between us grow ever stronger
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Old December 4th, 2012, 09:57 AM   #213

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Trouble over limited flying of the Union Jack.

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Pls. Tell me what is the the proplem after these years? I want not troll, really just to know. Is it the religion, the queen, the british, the socialism, the history. or what?
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Pls. Tell me what is the the proplem after these years? I want not troll, really just to know. Is it the religion, the queen, the british, the socialism, the history. or what?

Ah the Irish, give them cause and watch them latch on teeth first and never let go. I admire them for their unwavering tenacity.

But now on to other things. I had two questions for the Irish members of the board who I know must be lurking on this thread.

What is this I have heard about the Union Jack being raised 17 days of the year in N.I.? Is N.I. not part of the United Kingdom? Is Elizabeth II not the Queen of Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland?

Second question.....Are the ramifications of the Assassination of Lord Mountbatten still being felt to this day? And just how bad was the fall out from this. I heard whisperings that the British Army went on a bloody spree in retaliation for the assassination of member of the Royal family
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Pls. Tell me what is the the proplem after these years? I want not troll, really just to know. Is it the religion, the queen, the british, the socialism, the history. or what?
More like history, this "Manifest Dysfunctional" little state has been like this for a long time.
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What does that mean, Anne Louise?
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Old December 5th, 2012, 04:17 PM   #218

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What does that mean, Anne Louise?
That means it was by design that Northern Ireland was divided by religion. Keep the lower class protestant and lower class catholic fighting each other, and they won't go after the ones that were keeping them down.
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[QUOTE=Paragonrex;1278557]Ah the Irish, give them cause and watch them latch on teeth first and never let go. I admire them for their unwavering tenacity.

But now on to other things. I had two questions for the Irish members of the board who I know must be lurking on this thread.

What is this I have heard about the Union Jack being raised 17 days of the year in N.I.? Is N.I. not part of the United Kingdom? Is Elizabeth II not the Queen of Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland?

Second question.....Are the ramifications of the Assassination of Lord Mountbatten still being felt to this day? And just how bad was the fall out from this. I heard whisperings that the British Army went on a bloody spree in retaliation for the assassination of member of the Royal family[/QUOTE

Pit drunk are you?
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Ah the Irish, give them cause and watch them latch on teeth first and never let go. I admire them for their unwavering tenacity.

But now on to other things. I had two questions for the Irish members of the board who I know must be lurking on this thread.

What is this I have heard about the Union Jack being raised 17 days of the year in N.I.? Is N.I. not part of the United Kingdom? Is Elizabeth II not the Queen of Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland?

Second question.....Are the ramifications of the Assassination of Lord Mountbatten still being felt to this day? And just how bad was the fall out from this. I heard whisperings that the British Army went on a bloody spree in retaliation for the assassination of member of the Royal family[/QUOTE

Pit drunk are you?
I do not know what that means, but if any IRISH would like to comment I would love to hear your opinions on the matter.
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