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December 19th, 2011, 09:12 AM
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#1 | Suspended indefinitely
Joined: Dec 2011 Posts: 76 | How did Stalin really die???
how did he really die?
I'm pretty sure he was poisened by Beria...no wait, I am actually sure of it that he was.
there's no other explanation.
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Last edited by Revolution; December 19th, 2011 at 09:19 AM.
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December 19th, 2011, 09:22 AM
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#2 | Acting Corporal
Joined: May 2011 From: Navan, Ireland Posts: 12,957 | Quote:
Originally Posted by Revolution how did he really die?
I'm pretty sure he was poisened by Beria...no wait, I am actually sure of it that he was.
there's no other explanation. |
He was 73 and died of a cerebral hemorrhage why are you certain it had to be poison and by Beria?
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December 19th, 2011, 09:27 AM
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He was left to die in his office by his accomplices. His successor Khrushchev once said: "Every tyrant has been slain by an ax, because they had governed own people by axes "
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December 19th, 2011, 09:28 AM
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#4 | Suspended indefinitely
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Originally Posted by Kevinmeath He was 73 and died of a cerebral hemorrhage why are you certain it had to be poison and by Beria? | from wikipedia:
It has been suggested that Stalin was assassinated. The ex-Communist exile [ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abdurakhman_Avtorkhanov"]Avtorkhanov[/ame] argued this point as early as 1975. The political memoirs of [ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vyacheslav_Molotov"]Vyacheslav Molotov[/ame], published in 1993, claimed that Beria had boasted to Molotov that he poisoned Stalin: "I took him out."
Khrushchev wrote in his memoirs that Beria had, immediately after the stroke, gone about "spewing hatred against [Stalin] and mocking him", and then, when Stalin showed signs of consciousness, dropped to his knees and kissed his hand. When Stalin fell unconscious again, Beria immediately stood and spat. [272]
His demise arrived at a convenient time for [ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lavrenty_Beria"]Lavrenty Beria[/ame] and others, who feared being swept away in yet another purge. It is believed that Stalin felt Beria's power was too great and threatened his own. [274] | |
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December 19th, 2011, 09:28 AM
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Beria wanted Stalin to live. He knew that the others will finish him after Stalin's death.
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December 19th, 2011, 09:41 AM
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#6 | Acting Corporal
Joined: May 2011 From: Navan, Ireland Posts: 12,957 | Quote:
Originally Posted by Revolution from wikipedia:
It has been suggested that Stalin was assassinated. ................
.................. It is believed that Stalin felt Beria's power was too great and threatened his own. [274] | As Wiki says it has been 'suggested' that Beria killed him and it is 'plausible' that he could have done so ,perhaps with something like warfarin, that could produce stroke like symptums or even a stroke in it own right.
However Stalin had been ill since the end WWII so natural causes would seem to be as if not more likely than 'murder'.
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December 19th, 2011, 10:03 AM
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#7 | Historian
Joined: Nov 2010 Posts: 1,310 | Quote:
Originally Posted by Mosquito Beria wanted Stalin to live. He knew that the others will finish him after Stalin's death. | Eh, I'd rather take my chances with them then deal with a paranoid, perhaps senile Stalin
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December 19th, 2011, 10:24 AM
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#8 | mmmmph! mmmMMMMmmph!!
Joined: Jul 2010 From: Georgia, USA Posts: 7,575 | Quote:
Originally Posted by Mosquito Beria wanted Stalin to live. He knew that the others will finish him after Stalin's death. | Yep... and he was right.
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December 19th, 2011, 01:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Rasputin1234 Eh, I'd rather take my chances with them then deal with a paranoid, perhaps senile Stalin | His personal doctor confirmed Stalin was senile after the war. He wanted to hide that and said that the chieftain had "elusive and enigmatic disease", but when Stalin's accessories divulged ruse, the doctor was incarcerated.
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December 19th, 2011, 01:28 PM
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#10 | Ex Cold War Warrior
Joined: Mar 2011 From: North East England Posts: 3,463 |
I was told a story some time ago, that when Stalin died,doctors were afraid to declare him dead in case they were acused of killing him. is this true?
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