DreamWeaver

Confroming to socieities expectations and concepts is one thing. Ones personal sexual preference is another. It might make them bisexual, but it doesnt neccessarily mean that they are. Married men and women with children, who then realise that they have been in the closet as it were.

Nyneve

In any case bisexuality is probably a lot more common than straight (pun intended) homosexuality.

DreamWeaver

Various psychological studies have indicated that bisexuality/homosexuality ois much greater than one might expect oin society. Leading some to argeu that humans are essentially bisexual and that they steer to either end of the sepctrum, that is almost exclusively heterosexual or almost exclusively homosexual.

Nyneve

Perhaps so.

MrKap

I don't know a lot about monarchs, but, there are too many male gays, and not enough women gays.

It makes no sense.

What King in their right mind would publicly declare they are Gay, whether they were or not were not.


If the first documented execution for Sodomy occured in 1277, I would think every single Monarch would be more aligned with the Law, rather than philosophical or Satanist desires.

On the other hand, I could see any number of rivals continually attempting to undermine the reputation of another. I am not entirely buying this theory so far. Not with the ultra libs out in the forefront in these times.

If you ask me, maybe one or two of them, not 7 or 8 or them. Jmo... These are married people, right? Anything that opposed the belief of the Kings wife, would cause an outrage wouldn't it?

I mean there was Clinton, who had sex with interns, got caught and burned, ect... This is the middle ages, and gay love.

Unless for one reason or another the stress of overseeing government makes one more prone to be gay.

DreamWeaver

Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.


That they might nor declare themselves to be homosexual, be out and proud as it were, that doesnt mean that they werent homo/bisexual.

MrKap

Well, I will guess there is no evidence, so along that lines, the percentage is still through the roof.

These are people in a position of authority, both morally, and nationally. Correct? They've been bread since day one to rule, have they not?

It just kind of makes me wonder if 10% of the Chinese Emperors in the Forbidden Kingdoms were gay. Considering that Gay occurs more frequently with Royalty, that might mean 15% or even 20% of all Emperors were gay. Right? In a sense.

I wouldn't think so, and I would guess the pressure to be straight and to be a King would cause anyone to suppress any sort of Gay activity. Jmo...


To be fair, what's the percentage of Kings who had affairs? I am not drawing parallel between adultery, and homosexuality, but rather what percentage of rulers are willing to deviate from the sexually accepted norm to risk the reputation of the Monarch.

DreamWeaver

That they had been brought up and bread in a particualr manner does not neccessarily effect their sexuality. They may hve been prepared for a specific role in life, but that doesnt determine their sexuality. Only the type of behaviour that they are expected to conform to. They may suppress that sexuality because of societal pressures (people still do today).

Affairs and the producing of illegitimate children was fairly common. Kings that actually didnt and were faithful to their wives, Edward I for example, are often seen as something out of the ordinary.

Thessalonian

There is no doubt about that. Especially as far as females are concerned...

MrKap

I understand that if someone has a sexual urge for the same sex, it is internalized.

I am just questioning the level of sexual acceptance during those times, and what sort of consequence one might face for being actively gay.

So, if 7 or 8 Monarchs are gay, is that not a high percentage? If they never acted on it, then how can anyone label any specific person gay?

I don't know how far back this law goes, but wouldn't being gay, or even having sex outside of marriage be considered Treason?




This treason act according to the wiki would hold people accountable for going outside the sexually accepted norms, so to speak, if it damaged the reputation of the Kings children.