Napoleon by far had the biggest impact on Europe - Historum

Supercar120 · March 10th, 2012, 07:52 PM

i really don't see any other bigger figure, that has impacted so much of Europe as this man did

besides maybe Hitler, i think we can all agree, that Napoleon has had the most influence on the continent as a whole

rather you admirer him cause of his leadership and his genius military abilities, or have disdain for his extremely large ego, and sort of the "villiany" of him.. you cannot denounce the impact he had on Europe and the world

**Lucius** · March 10th, 2012, 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Supercar120

i really don't see any other bigger figure, that has impacted so much of Europe as this man did ...
besides maybe Hitler, i think we can all agree, that Napoleon has had the most influence on the continent as a whole ...
you cannot denounce the impact he had on Europe and the world

I invite you to go ahead and make your case.

Tercio · March 11th, 2012, 06:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Lucius

I invite you to go ahead and make your case.

+1.

Europe has such a large history of big conquerors I find it hard to agree. I feel his long term impact was significantly less than that of Caesar or Bismark.

Look at what Napoleon changed on the continent.

Weakened the already weakened Spain.
Created a polish duchy that didn't survive 20 years.
Strengthened an already strong Britain.
Introduced liberalism in a few nations, and Nationalism that already existed in Germany, Spain and Britain.
Sold Spanish luisiana to the USA.

What more long term impact?

red4tribe · March 11th, 2012, 07:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Tercio

+1.

Europe has such a large history of big conquerors I find it hard to agree. I feel his long term impact was significantly less than that of Caesar or Bismark.

Look at what Napoleon changed on the continent.

Weakened the already weakened Spain.
Created a polish duchy that didn't survive 20 years.
Strengthened an already strong Britain.
Introduced liberalism in a few nations, and Nationalism that already existed in Germany, Spain and Britain.
Sold Spanish luisiana to the USA.

What more long term impact?

Though it isn't a person, I would vouch that the French Revolution made a far greater impact on the continent and the world than did Napoleon.

**bartieboy** · March 11th, 2012, 07:12 AM

If you ask me Caesar had a greater impact... after all, the further back you go the more can change from a single decision...

**spellbanisher** · March 11th, 2012, 07:28 AM

Christopher Columbus, Isaac Newton, James Watt, Louis Pasteur, Charles Darwin, Fritz Haber, and Carl Bosch all had bigger impacts on Europe and the world than Napoleon.

**Naomasa298** · March 11th, 2012, 07:39 AM

Charlemagne had a bit of an impact.

As did Karl Benz, I would say.

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i think we can all agree, that Napoleon has had the most influence on the continent as a whole

I think we don't agree.

Homer · March 11th, 2012, 07:46 AM

Jesus had pretty good impact on Europe too.

Tercio · March 11th, 2012, 07:55 AM

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Jesus had pretty good impact on Europe too.

HOSTIA! how did we forget Jesus? Perhaps his whole reputation is a legacy is more a result of mary, but never the less. The people mentioned (And certaintly the revolution itself) have had far larger impacts on europe

Maponus · March 11th, 2012, 07:57 AM

The 'besides maybe Hitler' comment shows exactly what Supercar is thinks is 'impact'.

War.