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Old May 5th, 2012, 12:47 PM   #21

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That is not a serious list, don't look in Wikipedia, just discuss on the board whose link I posted above, if you are really interested. The man who owns the board is one of our best specialist in this regard.
where the hell is the list of dacian words in this labirinth?
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Old May 5th, 2012, 12:51 PM   #22

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Do you refer to Romanian? There are relatively few, from where so many? Please keep in mind that a lot of our ancestors were shepherds, like theirs, and the shepherds travel a lot, if you understand what "shepherd" means. You have no idea about what "transhumance" meant, and what a large territory was involved. I am a great-grandson (on direct paternal line) of an Oltenian shepherd shot by the Bulgarians at Turtucaia (in 1916, when my grandfather was aged just a couple of months), so I know what I mean when I say "shepherd", there are still a lot of memories in my extended family (about him, not necessarily about his death).
I mean similar words in Romanian and Albanian. Now, shepherds or coban were most people of the Balkans. On the other hand shepherds trade their goods as well, which usually makes words to travel a lot.
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I mean similar words in Romanian and Albanian. Now, shepherds or coban were most people of the Balkans. On the other hand shepherds trade their goods as well, which usually makes words to travel a lot.
This is EXACTLY what I wanted to say.
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Old May 5th, 2012, 12:59 PM   #24

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You have no idea about what "transhumance" meant, and what a large territory was involved.
in my oppinion, the definition of the word "transhumance " is very volatile. it is oftenly described as migration of the herdsmans from mountain to plain. the correct meaning would be overpopulation. vlachs occupied every time they could, plain lands, but mostly they had no choice but highlands, lowlands beeing occupied by others. on the other hand, they were adapted to live in highlands, this meaning not only pastoral life, also logers, a kind of agriculture...the overpopulation was produced due to the fact is need for much more terain in highlands, to subsist, than in lowlands
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My godmother is Aromanian, I know some words like frate and valea mare (name of an area), ani moults etc...
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in my oppinion, the definition of the word "transhumance " is very volatile. it is oftenly described as migration of the herdsmans from mountain to plain. the correct meaning would be overpopulation. vlachs occupied every time they could, plain lands, but mostly they had no choice but highlands, lowlands beeing occupied by others. on the other hand, they were adapted to live in highlands, this meaning not only pastoral life, also logers, a kind of agriculture...the overpopulation was produced due to the fact is need for much more terain in highlands, to subsist, than in lowlands
In what I am concerned, I referred to the history of my own ancestors, not to the history of the "vlachs". But by far the true "Vlachs" have been those from the mountains, not those from the plain, who are a lot mixed, now with Gypsies, in the past with others etc., the true Romanians are those from the mountains, and from there has come what has been and has brought always the best in us.
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In what I am concerned, I referred to the history of my own ancestors, not to the history of the "vlachs". But by far the true "Vlachs" have been those from the mountains, not those from the plain, who are a lot mixed, now with Gypsies, in the past with others etc., the true Romanians are those from the mountains, and from there has come what has been and has brought always the best in us.
both my parents come from highlands, but after 11 cnt vlachs settled in mass at plains, and some of them are models of folklore preservation
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My godmother is Aromanian, I know some words like frate and valea mare (name of an area), ani moults etc...
only in my county are two localties called "valea mare"(big valley)
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both my parents come from highlands, but after 11 cnt vlachs settled in mass at plains, and some of them are models of folklore preservation
How many Romanians from the mountains mix with the Trash, and how many from the plain mix with it, Perix. You are blind, or what? Can't you see the difference? I am Bucharester born from Bucharester (Bucharest-born) parents, but here is Babel.
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How many Romanians from the mountains mix with the Trash, and how many from the plain mix with it, Perix. You are blind, or what? Can't you see the difference? I am Bucharester born from Bucharester (Bucharest-born) parents, but here is Babel.
neither the highlanders are anymore what were when my grans were children, neither they were like when their grans were children, and probably will be less when my daughter will have children
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