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Old May 5th, 2012, 06:12 PM   #61

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However I do support the return of Moldavia to Romania.
thanks, we'd wish too, unfortunately everybody knows it is imposible
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Old May 5th, 2012, 06:19 PM   #62
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Thank you for info Tulun. For me as a Pole its kinda strange that homeland of our great Hungarian king Stefan Bathory isint Hungarian but different.
Yep, his birth village Szilágysomlyó/Simleu Silvaniei lost her Hungarian majority just in the 1950ies.

But ruins of his castle are still visible there

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Yep, his birth village Szilágysomlyó/Simleu Silvaniei lost her Hungarian majority just in the 1950ies.

But ruins of his castle are still visible there

Báthori vár
Btw, my wife's mother (my mother-in-law) is Romanian from Cluj, and she told me how Hungarian and Romanian boys (she had two brothers, now deceased) used to kick their faces and beat one another after the war. But she told me that both of them have the courtesy to don't insult women, and both Hungarian and Romanian women were respected and never had problems to walk wherever they wanted then. This is what my mother-in-law has told me, who was an adolescent living in the 1945-46 Cluj.

Tulun, your culture is still alive here, if something was destroyed it regarded Romanians in the same degree as Hungarians. Don't bullshit and see how much you have here, and you can express your culture here like in your home. Please don't bullshit, except some Turul statues or something similar (which expresses your jingoistic nationalism) your monuments were not destroyed (churches, graveyards etc.), if you show that picture, you show how lazy and indifferent you are. No one opposes you to repair the ruins, Tulun!

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However the treaty of trianon was unjust.
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Old May 5th, 2012, 06:57 PM   #65
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BTW Tulun bullshiter, until recent times you had the Ministry of Culture here, no? I just remembered, bullshiter: [ame=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hunor_Kelemen]Hunor Kelemen - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/ame].
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Btw, my wife's mother (my mother-in-law) is Romanian from Cluj, and she told me how Hungarian and Romanian boys (she had two brothers, now deceased) used to kick their faces and beat one another after the war. But she told me that both of them have the courtesy to don't insult women, and bot Hungarian and Romanian women were respected and never had problems to walk wherever they wanted then. This is what my mother-in-law has told me, who was an adolescent living in the 1945-46 Cluj.

Tulun, your culture is still alive here, if something was destroyed it regarded Romanians in the same degree as Hungarians. Don't bullshit and see how much you have here, and you can express your culture here like in your home. Please don't bullshit, except some Turul statues or something similar (which expresses your jingoistic nationalism) your monuments were not destroyed (churches, graveyards etc.), if you show that picture, you show how lazy and indifferent you are. No one opposes you to repair the ruins, Tulun!

Did i say Romanians destroyed that castle? it is now in the last 60 decades became Romanian majority, so thats about lazyness and indiference ). Overall i saw a general carelessness toward Saxon and Hungarian heritage in Transylvania, few positive exception was Sibiu/Nagyszeben/Hermannstadt where the mayor revived the rich past heritage of the town. I hope more will follow it, because everybody lose (or at least those who have a general love for history) when these disappear .
I know Ceausescu also ran amok among Romanian historical buildings in Wallachia and Moldova, it is also a tragedy.

Regarding jingoistic statues, how to interpret the Romanian monuments for the 1918 "Union" or the 1944-45 "liberation" in Hungarian majority settlements? )

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BTW Tulun bullshiter, until recent times you had the Ministry of Culture here, no? I just remembered, bullshiter: Hunor Kelemen - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia.
I think i didnt use personal insults toward you, i would appreciate if you do the same. Thanks
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I think i didnt use personal insults toward you, i would appreciate if you do the same. Thanks
And I would appreciate if you would leave behind your anti-Romanian hate and would be more rational. You dream at Great Hungary, I dream at Great Romania, and we are both rational people, this is what I want to think at least.
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Did i say Romanians destroyed that castle? it is now in the last 60 decades became Romanian majority, so thats about lazyness and indiference ). Overall i saw a general carelessness toward Saxon and Hungarian heritage in Transylvania, few positive exception was Sibiu/Nagyszeben/Hermannstadt where the mayor revived the rich past heritage of the town. I hope more will follow it, because everybody lose (or at least those who have a general love for history) when these disappear .
I know Ceausescu also ran amok among Romanian historical buildings in Wallachia and Moldova, it is also a tragedy.

Regarding jingoistic statues, how to interpret the Romanian monuments for the 1918 "Union" or the 1944-45 "liberation" in Hungarian majority settlements? )
My friend, now you are the owners of your monuments, do you understand this? How they look means how YOU care about them. If you see that one of your monuments in Romania is mistreated, just write to your community here.
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And I would appreciate if you would leave behind your anti-Romanian hate and would be more rational. You dream at Great Hungary, I dream at Great Romania, and we are both rational people, this is what I want to think at least.
i dont think i expressed any of those ideas here. I support Szekely autonomy and preservation of the Hungarian heritage there, but i try to not spend any energy on nationalist hate (i dont believe in them and find them immoral). Be it Romanian sh!t or Hungarian sh!t (or Tuareg sh!t), they all smell bad.
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