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Old May 10th, 2012, 11:25 AM   #1

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Churchill & the Lusitania


On 7 May 1915, the Lusitania was sunk off the coast Ireland by the
German U-boat, U-20 under the command of Lieutenant Walther Schwieger.
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I've recently came across the idea that Winston Churchill as First Lord of the Admiralty, knew of the whereabouts of all the U-boats since British Intelligence
had broken the German war code in late December 1914. The notion was
that he allowed the Lusitania to be sunk in hopes of bringing the US
into the war. I think he resigned soon after the sinking. Any thoughts on this?
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I think the main reason for him to resign was the aftermath of the Gallipoli campaign and had nothing to do with the Lusitania.
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I believe Churchill was actually demoted after the Gallipoli campaign.
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I believe Churchill was actually demoted after the Gallipoli campaign.
If Churchill was First Lord of the Admiralty (Navy) how did the disaster
at Gallipoli effect him?
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If Churchill was First Lord of the Admiralty (Navy) how did the disaster
at Gallipoli effect him?
Wasn't Churchill one of the architects of the Gallipoli plan?
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Wasn't Churchill one of the architects of the Gallipoli plan?
I was thinking water vs land. Why was he even evolved?
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I was thinking water vs land. Why was he even evolved?
I don't know as much about this as I should... but I'm thinking because it was an amphibious operation it would make sense to have the leader of the Navy heavily involved in the planning
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I've recently came across the idea that Winston Churchill as First Lord of the Admiralty, knew of the whereabouts of all the U-boats since British Intelligence
had broken the German war code in late December 1914. The notion was
that he allowed the Lusitania to be sunk in hopes of bringing the US
into the war. I think he resigned soon after the sinking. Any thoughts on this?
Churchill is rumoured to have said that the sinking of an American passenger liner would be a godsend for Britain, but I dont think he had any specific ship in mind.
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Churchill is rumoured to have said that the sinking of an American passenger liner would be a godsend for Britain, but I dont think he had any specific ship in mind.
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A week before the disaster, he (Winston Churchill) wrote to Walter Runciman, President of the Board of Trade that it was "most important to attract neutral shipping to our shores, in the hopes especially of embroiling the United States with Germany."
I don't know how reliable the quote is, but here it is.
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I don't know how reliable the quote is, but here it is.
Could still be a coincedence even if the quote is accurate...I feel like Churchill probably wouldn't have put that in writing before it happened if he was actively plotting something like that
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