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Old September 5th, 2012, 11:51 AM   #681

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I side with the United States, however I admire the Turks at Gallipoli.
Oh one can ADMIRE one's enemies, the Turks, German's etc were magnificent on the battlefield but the Entente were still correct
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Old December 5th, 2012, 02:26 PM   #682
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"George, the British Empire at present covers a quarter of the globe, while the German Empire consists of a small sausage factory in Tanganyika. I hardly think that we can be entirely absolved of blame on the imperialistic front." (c) Blackadder
In that "sausage factory in tanganyika", germans massacred african muslims. The german emprie also genocided and raped the herero people in namibia. When Kaiser Wilhelm II said he liked muslims, he mean white muslims, not blacks, asians or muslims of color.
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Old December 5th, 2012, 03:12 PM   #683

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Damn the Black Hand!!!!!

Do you hear me!?!? Damn them all to hell.

If not for those semi intellectual fops this world would be so different. Because of them. An innocent man and his wife were murdered in cold blood in the streets of Bosnia. A innocent who had he taken the throne of the Austro- Hungarian Empire would have put in place sweeping reforms that would have benefited the people of the Empire. Because of the Black Hand scoundrels, 3 Empires were destroyed, millions died, and the world has suffered for it every since.

May every member of the Black Hand rot in hell.
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Old December 5th, 2012, 03:16 PM   #684

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Actually more like a fifth of this Planet, but the point is still valid.

In spite of the obvious lack of usefulness of most British colonies (certainly less than any nice sausage factory) it's clear that the expansionist hunger of this colonial Empire never ceased up to its very end.

Naturally, the same could be said of the vast majority of colonies by the early XX century.

That's exactly why colonialism eventually became a net contributor for the general European instability.
I believe it was 1/5 the population and one quarter of the land mass.
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Old December 5th, 2012, 11:20 PM   #685
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In that "sausage factory in tanganyika", germans massacred african muslims. The german emprie also genocided and raped the herero people in namibia. When Kaiser Wilhelm II said he liked muslims, he mean white muslims, not blacks, asians or muslims of color.

Iirc he made the remark on a visit to Turkey. Did he regard the Turks as white?

Come to that I can think of very few Moslems (except the Albanians and Bosniaks (would Wilhelm have been thinking of either?) who could be so described.

As for massacring Moslems in East Africa, istr that quite a few of Lettow-Vorbeck's Askaris were Moslem. I once saw a picture of them being sworn in on the Koran. That doesn't suggest any consistent hostility between Germans and Moslems.

The Herero War was of course dreadful, but was itr any worse than what happened to the Aborigines in Tasmania? At least some Hereros survived. The colonial era was horrible all over, and there's little point in singling out particular powers.
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Old December 6th, 2012, 12:20 AM   #686

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In that "sausage factory in tanganyika", germans massacred african muslims. The german emprie also genocided and raped the herero people in namibia. When Kaiser Wilhelm II said he liked muslims, he mean white muslims, not blacks, asians or muslims of color.
what a nonsense.
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Old December 6th, 2012, 05:23 AM   #687

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I am on the side of Lenin and the Bolsheviks. The war was fought by the masses for the enrichment of small circles of individuals, using nationalism and xenophobia (in and of themselves quite natural and not evil behaviors) as fuel for the fire.
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Old December 6th, 2012, 09:28 AM   #688

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I didn't check to see if you were American, but the Civil War is over, so to speak. Why do people still claim everything was done in racist bias? Especially when the two people are on opposite lines?
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Old December 6th, 2012, 02:54 PM   #689
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If germany won the first world war, the second most likely would not have occured.
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Old December 6th, 2012, 05:18 PM   #690

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Damn the Black Hand!!!!!

Do you hear me!?!? Damn them all to hell.

If not for those semi intellectual fops this world would be so different. Because of them. An innocent man and his wife were murdered in cold blood in the streets of Bosnia. A innocent who had he taken the throne of the Austro- Hungarian Empire would have put in place sweeping reforms that would have benefited the people of the Empire. Because of the Black Hand scoundrels, 3 Empires were destroyed, millions died, and the world has suffered for it every since.

May every member of the Black Hand rot in hell.
soooo, you don't seem like one to fall in any 'the war was inevitable' categories.
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