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View Poll Results: Who's side are you on?
The Central Powers 86 30.07%
The Triple Entente 116 40.56%
Neither one of them 84 29.37%
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Old December 12th, 2012, 12:10 PM   #731
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Good point. The alliances were Edwardian, signed in 1904 and 1907. For some reason I thought they were about ten years earlier.

You were probably thinking of the Franco-Russian Alliance - that was signed in 1894.
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Old December 12th, 2012, 08:36 PM   #732

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Neither side had a justified reason for the war, except perhaps Belgium and Serbia (self-defence really). Making either side out to be bad or good is ridiculous given that they both had plans to invade each other before the war had begun.
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Old December 13th, 2012, 06:10 AM   #733

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It's quite interesting to see so much support for the Central Powers...I have to side with them as well, for the simple fact that had the German Empire continued to exist, and the Weimar Republic never came into being, there would have been no Third Reich. I'm not saying there wouldn't have been a second War to End All Wars, but, there certainly wouldn't have been a Nazi Germany, and that counts for a lot.

Also on a sentimental level, the Reich helped to arm the IRB prior to the Easter Rising in 1916 which, although it was a disaster for the Irish rebels, set the stage for the War of Independence to come following the end of the war and laid the foundation for the Republic of Ireland. So, although Irish politicians would never admit as much, it's not too much of a stretch to say that the IRB, and Irish Republicans in general, were on the side of the Central Powers.
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Old February 27th, 2013, 04:25 PM   #734
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Romania is definitely not the darkest country in Europe, however, it's predominantly dark-haired and dark-eyed due to Latin strains. Romania according to recent pigmentation study(2010) shows Romania to be similar to Italy and Balkanic nations. It's true the very dark Gypsy are a minority within the larger Latin-speaking Romanians. There are many blond Romanians too. Nevertheless Hungarians are lighter than Romanians.
Estimates of blond and red hair in the various European populations:

Romania- blond(8%)
Hungary- blond(15%),red(1%)
Slovenia- blond(14%),red(1%)
Croatia- blond(14%)
Bosnia, Herzegovina- blond(10%)
Serbia- blond(5%)
Bulgaria- blond(5%)
Albania- blond(4%)
Greece- blond(2%)
Italy- blond(7%), red(1%)

Estimates for blue eyes in those same nations.

Romania- 20%
Hungary- 28%
Slovenia- 34%
Croatia- 26%
Bosnia, Herzegovina- 24%
Serbia & Bulgaria- 17%
Albania- 11%
Greece- 10%
Italy- 18%
So now we can see where Romanians stand in comparison to other Europeans!
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Old March 9th, 2013, 06:17 AM   #735

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It's quite interesting to see so much support for the Central Powers...I have to side with them as well, for the simple fact that had the German Empire continued to exist, and the Weimar Republic never came into being, there would have been no Third Reich. I'm not saying there wouldn't have been a second War to End All Wars, but, there certainly wouldn't have been a Nazi Germany, and that counts for a lot.

Also on a sentimental level, the Reich helped to arm the IRB prior to the Easter Rising in 1916 which, although it was a disaster for the Irish rebels, set the stage for the War of Independence to come following the end of the war and laid the foundation for the Republic of Ireland. So, although Irish politicians would never admit as much, it's not too much of a stretch to say that the IRB, and Irish Republicans in general, were on the side of the Central Powers.
Yeah, supported them in WW2 as well, sabotaged the Allies for their kindred spirit Nazis. Germany has a lot to answer for bringing misery, death and destruction to Ireland even when their soldiers never set foot here.
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Old March 9th, 2013, 09:19 AM   #736

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If France got involved then Great Britain would be obliged to intervene..
No.
There was no treaty which obliged the British to intervene if France was attacked by Germany.
The Entente Cordiale of 1904 between Britain and France and the Anglo-Russian Entente of 1907 were not alliances, they were treaties which addressed the differences between these nation in colonial matters, and the so-called Triple Entente was not an alliance but an agreement to settle any future differences between each other in a friendly manner.
The importance of these treaties was not what was in them, but what they represented, a move by Britain from a position of diplomatic isolation towards European affairs, to one of friendship with one of the major power blocks in Europe.
In 1914 when war broke out between Austria and Serbia none of the major powers in Europe knew what Britain's response would be, even the British themselves were unsure what position to take, the British cabinet were split on the issue, the PM and the Foreign secretary were in favour of supporting France, but other members were against and the British public was not in favour of involvement either. It was only when Germany attacked Belgium with which Britain did have a treaty that the matter became settled, it united the nation and ensured that Britain would enter the war against the Central Powers.

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Old March 9th, 2013, 09:44 AM   #737

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IN 1914 is the Germany the Country with Imperialist Politic not the Entente with a Megalomaniac Emperor.
Is germany the Last Comme for the Colonials territory conquest with Italy.
Germany menaced France in Marocco and occupied our Alsace Lorraine and Uk have not the Obligation to help France if Uk enter in War is for the Belgium and the desire to no watch Germany or another Power occupied or annexed the lil Kingdom
And Uk and France are garant of the Belgium Neutrality
My unique question is for whats in 1914 the German Reich have not attacked the Holland
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My unique question is for whats in 1914 the German Reich have not attacked the Holland
Holland wasn't attacked in 1914, the Dutch had the good fortune to remain neutral during the whole of the First World War.
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Old March 9th, 2013, 09:56 AM   #739

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Yes but is a Mystery for me if the German wanted to creat a Conter Blocus against West for whats not occupied Holland in the same time of Belgium? is hard for me to imagine is just because the Kaiser have special good relation with the Dutch King
the Holland have Good relation with the British Monarch and the French Républic to!

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Yes but is a Mystery for me if the German wanted to creat a Conter Blocus against West for whats not occupied Holland in the same time of Belgium? is hard for me to imagine is just because the Kaiser have special good relation with the Dutch King
the Holland have Good relation with the British Monarch and the French Républic to!
I'm terribly sorry but at that time we had a queen.
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And her powers were very limited.

On another matter, during these years the Dutch were very careful in their foreign policy, afraid to offend any nation they put extreme care in to not showing preference to any power block.

William the III had a strong preference for France but he was always kept in place by his governments.
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