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Old December 24th, 2013, 10:51 AM   #221
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you were right when you called yourself aftertaut...was that intentional
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Old December 24th, 2013, 11:26 AM   #222

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I never said he denied anything (neither did I btw ), he said eye witness statements 'should be read with a critical eye'.
You said that witness statements were worthless, that there had to be documents etc and quoted him to support them.

so if you now accept witness statements how on earth do you account for the mountain of evidence that the Naz's murdered people by the million?

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Definitely. Without a shadow of a doubt.

The bear and eagle fable; the single person gas chamber; Irene Zisblat's testimony HOLOCAUST - "Ilse Koch Wanted My Skin For Lampshades!" (Irene Weisberg Zisblatt) - YouTube Herman Rosenblat Interview with Herman Rosenblat - a Holocaust liar - YouTube ; Filip Mueller (ate cake from one of the bodies in the gas chamber after the gassing); Daniel Bennahmias (claimed the alleged gas chambers walls were PAINTED after each gassing); Jankiel Wiernik (claimed: 1200 people fit into a 7 X 7 m gas chamber, bodies of women were used for kindling, bodies burned on their own once lit, he saw a naked Jewish girl jump a 3m (9 ft.) high fence & shoot two guards, that 900,000 Jews were gassed..buried..exhumed..cremated & all traces disappeared), I could go on and on...
And all these were in Primo Levi's work?



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Try and approach it with an open mind, after all none of us know everything and there is a possibility you have been wrong.
I will but perhaps youu should do the same but if you have been relying on writers for the Institute for Historical Review God help you.


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People have been fed a line and are afraid to question the holocaust. If they do they will be ridiculed, vilified, attacked and imprisoned. Look at the way people in North Korea behave, are we so 'clever' and 'free' that we could never be taught to believe a myth?
Perhaps they have been 'fed' that line because its true? that millions were killed in the most horrific way and that people who deny that deserve to be ridiculed etc.

The fact that you can post this stuff and read it shows that you are not in North Korea, I have no idea whwere you live but Ireland is about as far as you can get from North Korea.

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Most people believed the sun went around the Earth, or that the Earth was flat; remember their reaction against those who said it wasn't so?
You really don't much about history do you?

flat earth etc is a myth, it was centuries ago etc.

To deny the slaughter of millions of men women and children in the most horrific circumstances has obsolutely nothing to do with european thought in the Middle Ages.
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Old December 24th, 2013, 12:39 PM   #223

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So this is how you talk to someone you dont even know, you insult them first, you havent engaged based on the issues at all, you just arrive and start handing out the insults
Every word of that statement could be applied to you. You have been handing out insults since you started posting here. Grimald, on the other hand, has been polite and constructive in his posts.
The fact that you are now seeing insults in straightforward replies just serves to highlight how weak your case is.

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I'm not anti-semitic or pro-Nazi.
Yet you sound exactly like a pro Nazi anti semite.
If it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck.......etc.
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you were right when you called yourself aftertaut...was that intentional
What do you mean?
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Old December 24th, 2013, 01:07 PM   #225
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You said that witness statements were worthless, that there had to be documents etc and quoted him to support them.
I was actually quoting people, including Levi, who said that.

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so if you now accept witness statements how on earth do you account for the mountain of evidence that the Naz's murdered people by the million?
??? I've just told you what I think of the witness statements.

What mountain of evidence?

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And all these were in Primo Levi's work?
No, I never said they were. You asked what witnesses I thought were telling porkies and I made you a short list.

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I will but perhaps you should do the same but if you have been relying on writers for the Institute for Historical Review God help you.
You shouldn't judge people or groups by what someone with an agenda tells you about them, you should investigate yourself and find out what they are about.

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The fact that you can post this stuff and read it shows that you are not in North Korea, I have no idea whwere you live but Ireland is about as far as you can get from North Korea.
The point I was making was that people in NK believe as they do because they are taught a particular line, are we so superior that we are sure we are not being treated in a similar fashion.

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You really don't much about history do you?
Whoops, there you go again

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To deny the slaughter of millions of men women and children in the most horrific circumstances has absolutely nothing to do with european thought in the Middle Ages.
You sort of missed that point as well...
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Old December 24th, 2013, 01:11 PM   #226
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Every word of that statement could be applied to you. You have been handing out insults since you started posting here.
What insults have I handed out?

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Yet you sound exactly like a pro Nazi anti semite.
If it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck.......etc.
You're chucking mud now, I'm only interested in points of history.
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Old December 24th, 2013, 01:12 PM   #227

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Yet you sound exactly like a pro Nazi anti semite.
If it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck.......etc.




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Sorry but if it walks like a duck, swims like a duck. and quacks like a duck, it's a duck.

You are a holocaust denier
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Old December 24th, 2013, 02:09 PM   #228

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What insults have I handed out?
#116 "I see reality denial has reared its ugly head! Actually you're a dish but I suppose flattery aint going to help me"
#168 "What on Earth is the "holocaust deniers manual" you silly woman?"
#190 "You're some "scholar"
#201 "You 'need to be sure', what are you the Gestapo?"
#203 "All you are interested in doing is throwing mud and labeling people."
#204 "You'd have to mentally retarded not to be critical of someone who tells the 'bear and eagle' fable or the single person gas chamber story."
#210 " Have you convinced yourself with your little diatribe"

I'm not even going to dignify your childish comments about "badges of pride" with a response.

Your constant tactic of answering challenging questions by asking counter questions is an insult to anyone reading this thread.
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Old December 24th, 2013, 02:12 PM   #229

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As good Redcoat put it sometime ago
It's either plagiarism, a subconscious homage or the Christmas brandy at work!

The truth bears repetition though, IMO.
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Old December 24th, 2013, 02:24 PM   #230

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You shouldn't judge people or groups by what someone with an agenda tells you about them, you should investigate yourself and find out what they are about.



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Almost time to give Santa a hand so God knows when I will be able to answer.

But honestly if you think the Institute For Historical Review a sound place (not to mention without and Agenda!!!! the whole thing was established with an agenda !!!!) then there is little to be gained.

Have you left school? because you really need to read wider and away from the web.

don't ever quote them in an assessment , you'll get hammered , quite rightly.
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