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Old July 8th, 2012, 08:51 AM   #21

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Stop with the Israel/Palestine ****.
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Germany was in terrible shape, most people went poor from the collapse. They looked upon Jews as having lots of money while they went homeless and had to beg for food.

Antisemitism at that point was rampant anyway, Jews were an easy scapegoat.
That doesn't make it right. What are you arguing that I should understand, that at some point during the 1930's that feelings were warranted against Jewish people?
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And now a random picture of hitler from 1914 Click the image to open in full size.
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Are you actually arguing that Europeans should have carved out a homeland for the Israelis? Is that a contradiction in terms? I have settled in and I am under control emotionally. Actually the tennis match so many on this site are interested in has been delayed for a long time, and I enjoy a good debate.

Israel is a tiny sliver of land surrounded by the entire Arab world. It is not so much a country, but a mini state, like Andorra or Lichtenstein. Why should they give up territory?
Why would Palestinians be evicted out of their country? To foreigners (zionists)?
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In the second link, timeline started from April 1. If you check the Daily Express report, those actions were REACTIONS to the Jewish boycott, reported on march 24.
Indeed. But what were the Jews protesting? Some imaginary policies? I do not think so. Is the German reaction to it reasonable? Maybe if you decide German Jews are not citizens otherwise all you are doing is proving them right.
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Indeed. But what were the Jews protesting? Some imaginary policies? I do not think so. Is the German reaction to it reasonable? Maybe if you decide German Jews are not citizens otherwise all you are doing is proving them right.
No, I am not proving anyone right or wrong. I am simply trying to establish reasons for what triggered extreme anti-semitism of the nazis.
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Are you actually arguing that Europeans should have carved out a homeland for the Israelis? Is that a contradiction in terms? I have settled in and I am under control emotionally. Actually the tennis match so many on this site are interested in has been delayed for a long time, and I enjoy a good debate.

Israel is a tiny sliver of land surrounded by the entire Arab world. It is not so much a country, but a mini state, like Andorra or Lichtenstein. Why should they give up territory?
I don't think Israel is anything like Andorra or Monaco or other micro states. And I've read the links and don't think they're anti-semitic. Also I think one should read from both sides of the coin to understand what happened in the history.
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I don't think Israel is anything like Andorra or Monaco or other micro states. And I've read the links and don't think they're anti-semitic. Also I think one should read from both sides of the coin to understand what happened in the history.
Thank you for that. I think that perhaps I misunderstood things and if so, I apologize to all involved. As far as discussing things involving the security of Israel and their military, I err on the side of Israel.
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And now a random picture of hitler from 1914 Click the image to open in full size.
Did Hitler have an aversion to hats? The only picture I've ever seen of him wearing one is in his Nazi military cap... I thought most everyone in the 30s and 40s wore hats with their civilian clothes?
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Why would Palestinians be evicted out of their country? To foreigners (zionists)?
For once in my life, I would wish that people would not use the word "Zionist" as another word for "Nazi". Perhaps if you could look at history, judge things again, you would come to the same opinion that I have, that Zionists are not evil.
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