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Old July 9th, 2012, 12:37 PM   #71
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in private Tsar Nicholas ii of russia expressed his admiration for the mobs, viewing anti-Semitism as a useful tool for unifying the people behind his regime.
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Old July 9th, 2012, 12:57 PM   #72
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Kaiser Wilhelm II, Hitler, and the Jews - HISTORICITY (was already taken) Kaiser wilhelm II wrote The Jews are a nuisance that humanity must get rid of some way or other. I believe the best would be gas!
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Old December 7th, 2013, 09:30 AM   #73

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Hi well am not surprised i think the Jews were a political tool that helped put Hitler in power,then like most things it it became an obsession that was too powerful to stop and took over the psyche of the leadership.
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Hi well am not surprised i think the Jews were a political tool that helped put Hitler in power,then like most things it it became an obsession that was too powerful to stop and took over the psyche of the leadership.
They weren't a political tool, Nazism was a political party based on racism.
The removal of Jews from Germany by whatever means was a central part of the Nazi creed from the start.
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The History Channel did an interesting program about the 100,000 Jews who fought for Hitler in the war. Some of them were even in the SS units. Also interesting that there were dozens of Jewish German generals and admirals. Most of them were half Jews, but under Nazi laws they were considered to be full Jews. What happened is that the Nazis protected those were useful to them. Goring, for example, protected his Jews, in the air force. Helmouth Wiberg and Erhard Milch were given Aryan status even though their mothers were Jewish. Milch was tried after as a war criminal and served ten years in prison. The program mentioned a Jewish admiral who after the war was given an important role in NATO.
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This is not so rare in dictators with an extreme mind set. It happens that personal linkages win on general policies [just because the highest leader can ...].

It's a way to be above your own laws [to be "omnipotent"] and to do a "good action" ...
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The History Channel did an interesting program about the 100,000 Jews who fought for Hitler in the war. Some of them were even in the SS units. Also interesting that there were dozens of Jewish German generals and admirals. Most of them were half Jews, but under Nazi laws they were considered to be full Jews. What happened is that the Nazis protected those were useful to them. Goring, for example, protected his Jews, in the air force. Helmouth Wiberg and Erhard Milch were given Aryan status even though their mothers were Jewish. Milch was tried after as a war criminal and served ten years in prison. The program mentioned a Jewish admiral who after the war was given an important role in NATO.
Again ... real politik.

For accuracy the Nazies accepted the Jews who accepted Nazism. Like for the German Knights. When in 1938 Hitler asked to German Knighthood to substitute the code of Knighthood with Nazism [or to put Nazism over the code of Knighthood] a percentage of Knights accepted and they kept on being officers in the Wehrmacht [overall in the armored divisions]. The others had to leave the country or at least the Army. The same for the Jews. A part of the Jews in the Wehrmacht [Luftwaffe ...] who didn't accept Nazism left the country before of the war [but note that it happens that many of them served for years under Hitler government].
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Hitler always was such a softy wasn't he? That pretty much makes up for all the people he murdered. I think this thread will go where it will go, but when I read this article yesterday I was reminded that he was also a vegetarian, was against smoking, and was an all around jerk. I have never understood what the motivation was behind the Nazi persecution of the Jews. The Nazis were not particularly religious from what I can tell, they could not claim that Jewish people were a drain on society since they obviously were successful as a group, so I cannot even fathom what drove the Nazis in their hatred of Jewish people.
The old lie of Judaeo-Bolshevism, which created a convenient mythology where Jews were the founders of the USSR and the greatest beneficiaries of it.
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It is ironic that the Jews in Germany had more rights and economic opportunities then the Jews in other countries until Hitler came to power. One story I heard why the Jews were hated by the time the Nazis came to power was that they survived the Depression in the early 1920s with the high inflation the collapse of the currency. They were smart enough to get their money out of Germany before the collapse and then brought the money back which made many of them extremely wealthy. This wealth made the rest of the population very angry and willing to listen to the Nazis.
Years ago I was able to speak the Russian Jews who immigrated to the US in after the 1970s. Their story is that hatred for Jews barely existed in Russia until the Jews started to get care packages from the US with expensive clothing such as jeans. The sold this clothing and made a lot of money which angered the other Russians and led to a general hatred for Jews. That resulted in the Russian Jews wanting the leave Russia.
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Hitler had Jewish mother. They made DNA test and it turns out he has Jewish ancestry from Morocco They say in elementry school they made fun of Hitler for being a Jew. This developed to internalizing the hate towards Jews and hating himself and hating Jews. He didn't look particularly "Aryan".
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