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Old October 13th, 2012, 12:57 PM   #1
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Battle of Towton 1461 ( British soldiers face reconstruction )


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"The Battle of Towton was fought during the English Wars of the Roses on 29 March 1461, near the village of the same name in Yorkshire. It was the "largest and bloodiest battle ever fought on English soil".[1] According to chroniclers, more than 50,000 soldiers from the Houses of York and Lancaster fought for hours amidst a snowstorm on that day, which was a Palm Sunday. A newsletter circulated a week after the battle reported that 28,000 died on the battlefield. The engagement brought about a monarchical change in England—Edward IV displaced Henry VI as King of England, driving the head of the Lancastrians and his key supporters out of the country. "

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The facial wound (healed), could have been made during an earlier battle in France. The Towton Grave remains indicate that the victims were murdered, rather than killed in combat. In my opinion, this is strange, because Human nature usually makes it difficult to kill a captured and yeilding enemy. Thes soldiers seem to be killed as a result of orders from a higher level(?). The fact that the grave is not on the battlefield, but on the route of the rout, adds to the theory of murder.
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I always like to look at these face reconstruction things. It literally brings the past to life. Most of the time you can only imagine what soldiers who fought in battles long ago looked like, but these face reconstructions show you what they actually looked like.
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I like the idea but ive never been completely sold on the science of it.

they reconstruct the face by using an average skin and muscle thickness to form a base and then 'artisitic interpretation' to finish off the face.

That means other important facts are left out such as was the real man fat or skinny, the bad skin or broken nose, did he shave and how did his hair lie or did he even have any a skeleton hardly tells you about pattern baldness.

then theres the entirely ephemeral things about people like did he smile or sneer and the thousand and one things that make up the real person that dont exist but the artist has put on to interpret his face for a viewer.

Its a best guess
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"The Battle of Towton was fought during the English Wars of the Roses on 29 March 1461, near the village of the same name in Yorkshire. It was the "largest and bloodiest battle ever fought on English soil".[1] According to chroniclers, more than 50,000 soldiers from the Houses of York and Lancaster fought for hours amidst a snowstorm on that day, which was a Palm Sunday. A newsletter circulated a week after the battle reported that 28,000 died on the battlefield. The engagement brought about a monarchical change in England—Edward IV displaced Henry VI as King of England, driving the head of the Lancastrians and his key supporters out of the country. "

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These reconstructed faces have all the hallmarks of "hard cases", and Iam not surprised by their appearance. They would all indicate a hard and tough life, as one would expect from medieval soldiers.
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There was a documentary about the battle of Towton in which this reconstruction was discussed.
This is part of that programme.


If I remember correctly they came to the conclusion that this guy was a professional footsoldier who was cut down in the rout and finished off where he lay. Thems the breaks!
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The blow to this man's skull is absolutely terrifying. What kind of weapon was used to cause damage to an skull like that?

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The blow to this man's skull is absolutely terrifying. What kind of weapon was used to cause damage to an skull like that?
IIRC it was a warhammer, at least according to the forensic team who examined him.

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IIRC it was a warhammer, at least according to the forensic team who examined him.

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It could have been any weapon with a spike or point on it, I do not know how they came up with a certainty that it was a warhammer
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It could have been any weapon with a spike or point on it, I do not know how they came up with a certainty that it was a warhammer
It is probably the likeliest weapon, but your correct, it could have been any 'beaked' weapon.
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