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Old November 8th, 2012, 07:54 AM   #101
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punch card tabulation databases were invented long before 1942. they are not really computers as we know today.
Now that's more like it. I understand now.

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There are several computers in the 40th, stefany's Atansaoff-Berry-computer, your colossus, the Mark I and ENIAC in the USA and Zuse's Z3 and Z4. It depends on the definition, which was the first.

My countryman Atanasoff's computer is the first
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Old November 8th, 2012, 08:36 AM   #102

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How did the Nazis know who was a jew and who was not?

did they already have id cards where it says if a person is jew, german, danish etc.?
i mean there were lots of jews in germany. how did they pin point where they live? some of them might look just like a german.
Just the quote: "I decide who is the Jew here and who is not Jew!" (Hermann Goering.)
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Which might have been theoretically capable but didnt work and needed more development.

Colossus was the first generally functioning and practical computer even if nobody knew about it for 30 years because of wartime secrecy.
Certainly worked in cross checking Jewish names. Before the IBM computers were used the Nazis thought there was 400,000 jews in Germany... once the names were computer punch card cross checked with other names in those regions the numbers went astronomical. That's when the nazis realized they simply could not shoot them all and started building gas chambers and ovens.

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IBM and its German subsidiary custom-designed complex solutions, one by one, anticipating the Reich's needs. They did not merely sell the machines and walk away. Instead, IBM leased these machines for high fees and became the sole source of the billions of punch cards Hitler needed.
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As far as I can tell it was the fact that extensive records already existed (many in church parishes going back centuries) and the german 'gift' for organisation.

I am pretty much convinced that I don't have any Jewish ancestry for the mere fact that I am here. Alive. My father was born in Berlin in 1940.
As far as I know my families records (like everyones) were scoured and considering my family survived......
I am a tad suspicious actually. My father has a big nose and is very good with money, and he achhs and yitzes sometimes. My fathers family also spits out the occasional olive skinned brown haired person though myself had two sons who when they were younger looked like they were straight out of a Hitlerjungen poster.

Genetics eh?
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