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Old November 7th, 2012, 03:33 PM   #1

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Why did Charles I have so many problems?


Was he merely incompetent? Did he have a character weakness? Were people against him? What led to all the problems with parliament, the church and the people?

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I think it was just a change in mindset. Absolutism was simply going out of date, it didn't have too much to do with him. I certainly wouldn't argue that he was incompetent. Arrogant, hell yes, but not incompetent.
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I think it was just a change in mindset. Absolutism was simply going out of date, it didn't have too much to do with him. I certainly wouldn't argue that he was incompetent. Arrogant, hell yes, but not incompetent.
So, he simply wasn't able to roll with the times? Was this due to his upbringing?
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So, he simply wasn't able to roll with the times? Was this due to his upbringing?
Yes I think so....
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Was he merely incompetent? Did he have a character weakness? Were people against him? What led to all the problems with parliament, the church and the people?

No, i think he just wanted to restore power lost back to the throne. Plus, ignoring and down playing the important role of the Magna Carta document wasn't ever going to set him in good stead with parliament and the nascent republican ideas (Thinking of Cromwell). Thus, i think the stage for English Civil War was set.

Character weakness? I think he idolized the role and power of the French king too much.

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Old November 8th, 2012, 01:02 AM   #6

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I am not an expert on Charles I but he certainly had his problems

1) I am not sure that a French Catholic wife was the most popular of choices at a time of anti catholosism.

2) His choice of advisors was ill poor. Buckingham was incompetent and both Laud and Stafford could have used a slightly more softly, softly approach in the execution of their duties.

3) Charles inability to deal effectively with a ever more assertive and Presbeterian parliament

4) Charles misuse of money

you add insecurity, arrogance and an inability to gauge the public mood and you have a recipie for conflict of one type or another.
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Long time since I read up on the period but if I remember correctly we have to think of the context of the time, the World of the Middle Ages was gone (or going) and the 'modern' world was starting (and only starting).

This left a great deal of change in all works of life, Parliament and its power changing finnaces etc, for instance the Royal Navy was just that, the Kings Navy in his ships, paid for by him. But a modern huge navy that Britain was starting to need couldn't be paid for in that way, it needed national -- modern-- taxation.

Now these stresses and strains were not new, Elizabeth had very similar problems but she was simply smarter than Charles and dealt with them.

But she dealt with them she didn't solve them, James managed to cope but Charles couldn't, partly because he didn't have Elizabeths ability but also because the problems were getting worse, something had to give.

Charles wasn't a fool but he wasn't good enough to deal with the great changes needed a bit like Louis in the French revolution over a century later.
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I think it was just a change in mindset. Absolutism was simply going out of date.....

Not really, it was just begining of the age of absolutism in Europe
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I think it was just a change in mindset. Absolutism was simply going out of date, it didn't have too much to do with him. I certainly wouldn't argue that he was incompetent. Arrogant, hell yes, but not incompetent.
Must entirely agree, some immense misplaced arrogance and contempt for the rights & lives of his not-so-powerless subjects which may arguably be even considered pathological.
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I think it was just a change in mindset. Absolutism was simply going out of date, it didn't have too much to do with him. I certainly wouldn't argue that he was incompetent. Arrogant, hell yes, but not incompetent.
Doubt Absolutism was going out of date, it lasted in one form or another until 1918.
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