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Old November 22nd, 2012, 01:09 AM   #91

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@antonina - I think you must be joking. Contemporary Poland is the most intolerant country I know, especially if we speak about their attitude to the communistic past of the country. For example several years ago Polish parliament passed a bill that prohibited using any kind of symbols and depictions associated with communism. As a result of the new ridiculous law many people were arrested and had severe legal problems - including undergoing criminal prosecutions - for such meaningless acts as e.g. wearing a T-shirt with hammer and sickle logo or putting such a logo as avatar on the forum (my case).

After the catastrophe of Polish AirForceOne in Smolensk in April 2010 the xenophobic and paranoid atmosphere began to be particularly dense. Especially Russians cannot feel safe there. So please do not try to tell me that you can freely express your views in Poland, because it's just plain untrue. Your possible staying by your claim will make me think you are not based in Poland, but maybe somewhere on the Moon, totally detached from reality

And this is sad, because Poland would have ceased to exist if it hadn't been liberated in 1945 by the Red Army, so a little respect and gratitude towards eastern neighbour would be strongly recommended. Not to mention it is thanks to Soviet Union Poles had excellent opportunities of development and transforming into a modern and educated society - opportunities that they failed to make use of. I am speaking also about the reproductive rights and the general position of women.
This is getting amusing. I expect we'll shortly see a profusion of posts by allegedly Polish posters bewailing opression (especially by the EU) and expressing longing for the good old days
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Old November 22nd, 2012, 04:38 AM   #92

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So do those two sites claim.
I do not care of your sites. Structure of the population in Checheno-Ingush republic according to the results of population census at 1989:Chechens - 734501, Russians - 293771, Ingushs - 163762, Armenians - 14824, Tatars - 14824. How many Russians, Armenians and Tatars live in Chechen Republic now? I look forward to your answer.
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Old November 22nd, 2012, 06:02 AM   #93

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I do not care of your sites. Structure of the population in Checheno-Ingush republic according to the results of population census at 1989:Chechens - 734501, Russians - 293771, Ingushs - 163762, Armenians - 14824, Tatars - 14824. How many Russians, Armenians and Tatars live in Chechen Republic now? I look forward to your answer.
Not so much, "thanks" for carpet bombing. The first victim of Russians was actually of Armenian decency (aero port mechanic).
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Old November 22nd, 2012, 06:33 AM   #94

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Not so much, "thanks" for carpet bombing. The first victim of Russians was actually of Armenian decency (aero port mechanic).
Lors I'm very difficult object for trolling. So stop your poor attempts to troll me. And please do not forget to answer my question. I'll change it a little to prevent new attempts of empty rhetoric. How many Russians, Armenians and Tatars lived in Chechen Republic at autumn 1994? I look forward to your answer.

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@antonina - I think you must be joking. Contemporary Poland is the most intolerant country I know, especially if we speak about their attitude to the communistic past of the country. For example several years ago Polish parliament passed a bill that prohibited using any kind of symbols and depictions associated with communism. As a result of the new ridiculous law many people were arrested and had severe legal problems - including undergoing criminal prosecutions - for such meaningless acts as e.g. wearing a T-shirt with hammer and sickle logo or putting such a logo as avatar on the forum (my case).

After the catastrophe of Polish AirForceOne in Smolensk in April 2010 the xenophobic and paranoid atmosphere began to be particularly dense. Especially Russians cannot feel safe there. So please do not try to tell me that you can freely express your views in Poland, because it's just plain untrue. Your possible staying by your claim will make me think you are not based in Poland, but maybe somewhere on the Moon, totally detached from reality

And this is sad, because Poland would have ceased to exist if it hadn't been liberated in 1945 by the Red Army, so a little respect and gratitude towards eastern neighbour would be strongly recommended. Not to mention it is thanks to Soviet Union Poles had excellent opportunities of development and transforming into a modern and educated society - opportunities that they failed to make use of. I am speaking also about the reproductive rights and the general position of women.
Welcome to your forum. Let the truth about Poland pour out!
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Old November 22nd, 2012, 12:50 PM   #96

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Edward, interesting numbers about the right to vote, but the right to vote has to be accompanied with the right to choose. If 100 percent has to vote for Mr. Brezhnev, it is not the right, it is a hard obligation. I would like to see multi-partisan system in the USA, as well, but of course it can not be compared with what we had in the USSR.
To the rest, I enjoyed your posts but have to answer later, weather permitting. It is bad.
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Salut Dorothea, where are you based if I may ask? Cause it can't be Poland, you know. If you were really writing from here you'd know there's a wide range of Polish forums, representing all possible views from radical left to radical right where people can squabble to their hearts content. And I've never seen anyone hounded out of town for expressing nostalgia about communism.

On the other hand, locating the place where the phrase "Western hypocricy" was coined takes only a second
You know, I tend to disagree with you. Maybe you are right about the place "minting" the phrase, but I'd expect a person from such a place being a very good troll, and actually, quietly provoking some of the posters rather than openly stating his views. Although, there are trolls and trolls, of course... sigh. I guess the main trait is the tendency to provoke.
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This is getting amusing. I expect we'll shortly see a profusion of posts by allegedly Polish posters bewailing opression (especially by the EU) and expressing longing for the good old days
Good old day.
The only one think good was that I was young and full of fighting spirit. I use this spirit to oppose, in democratic way, the regime Dorothea is so found about.
In return, I was presented with two options which I had to democratically elect; to be in prison or to leave the country. So thanks to people like Dorothea I’m in Australia.
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Edward, interesting numbers about the right to vote, but the right to vote has to be accompanied with the right to choose. If 100 percent has to vote for Mr. Brezhnev, it is not the right, it is a hard obligation. I would like to see multi-partisan system in the USA, as well, but of course it can not be compared with what we had in the USSR.
To the rest, I enjoyed your posts but have to answer later, weather permitting. It is bad.
Exavctly, the bare right to vote is meaningless if there is only one option to vote
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Welcome to your forum. Let the truth about Poland pour out!
You see, Dorothea, You have a brotherly soul here.
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