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Old November 19th, 2012, 07:32 PM   #61
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There was no USSR in April 1917. It was a Russia Republic after February Revolution.
In Soviet Russia the vote was granted in 1918


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women%27s_suffrage


Voting for women on national level- examples only
  • 1893 – Nowa Zelandia
  • 1902 - Australia
  • 1906 – Finlandia
  • 1918 – Poland, Austria, Germany
  • 1920 – USA
  • 1924 – Turky
  • 1927 – Turkmenistan
  • 1928 – UK
  • 1931 – Portugal
  • 1944 – France
  • 1946 – Italy
  • 1984 – Liechtenstein
  • 2005 – Kuwait
  • 2006 – United Arab Emirates
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Old November 19th, 2012, 09:47 PM   #62
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No wonder : liberalism is very closed to fascism. You see,fascism leads up to a logic finish a liberal idea of competition.Fascism grows up from the idea of competition and supression of one by another, only it sees it at the level of races,not at the level of individuals. That is fascism is hypertrophied liberalism.
People with such attitude don't deserve anything better than being raped by the Police http://www.nytimes.com/2012/09/26/wo...lity-case.html, have the highest level of suicides, abortions, abandoned children, alcohol and drug abusers per capita. But I cannot help wondering why normal people are punished to live there?
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Old November 19th, 2012, 10:16 PM   #63
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As to liberals and Russian liberals. Russian liberals are the worst form of liberals. There is nothing bad in the word liberal in the western understanding of this word. There are many good things which are protected by liberals: a freedom of speech, democracy, human rights and so on. And the western liberalism does not contradict with love to own country. But the word liberal is almost a curse in Russia. Synonymous with traitor and a scoundrel. I do not know why Russian liberals so much hate own country. Ask them, not me. Dostoevsky has given the good definition to Russian liberals " Наш русский либерал прежде всего лакей и только и смотрит, как бы кому-нибудь сапоги вычистить". " Our Russian liberal first of all is the lackey and just search to clean somebody's boots ". Speaking about Russian liberals we use the word "liberast". Just the quote from Russian Lurkmore:
Nice paragraph, of course incoherent, but still nice. It perfectly shows where all Russian problems stem from. 95% extremely talented Russians have decided some things like: Stalin is good, although Jews, liberals, gays are bad. And legitimate arguments are unable to convince them they are wrong. If you read the paragraph carefully, you can find out that the author is unable to explain why does he hate liberals. As my teacher on literature would say: the author has no idea what he is talking about. I have no doubts that Potap could write almost the same paragraph about sexual minorities with notorious clichs like same-sex marriages lead up to marriages with animals and legalization of pedophiles. And I'm not so sure that he could write also about Jews. As for his quotation of Dostoevsky one has to remember that the writer had extremely hard life and therefore deeply troubled personality. In 1848 he was pardoned by the emperor while he was standing on scaffolds awaiting execution.
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There was no USSR in April 1917. It was a Russia Republic after February Revolution.
In Soviet Russia the vote was granted in 1918


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women%27s_suffrage


Voting for women on national level- examples only
  • 1893 Nowa Zelandia
  • 1902 - Australia
  • 1906 Finlandia
  • 1918 Poland, Austria, Germany
  • 1920 USA
  • 1924 Turky
  • 1927 Turkmenistan
  • 1928 UK
  • 1931 Portugal
  • 1944 France
  • 1946 Italy
  • 1984 Liechtenstein
  • 2005 Kuwait
  • 2006 United Arab Emirates
Thanks for specification. But read my post closely. I have written:

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..........Nobody have noted that women in Russia - USSR had the right to vote since April, 15 1917..........
The decision to equalize rights of men and women was made by Provisional Government. When bolsheviks have taken the power they have changed nothing in this decision.
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In Soviet Russia the vote was granted in 1918
Somewhere in 1987. Before that there was only the voting for or against the unopposed commie's candidate who always received about 99 percent of the vote.
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Old November 20th, 2012, 08:33 AM   #66

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Nice paragraph, of course incoherent, but still nice. It perfectly shows where all Russian problems stem from. 95% extremely talented Russians have decided some things like: Stalin is good, although Jews, liberals, gays are bad. And legitimate arguments are unable to convince them they are wrong. If you read the paragraph carefully, you can find out that the author is unable to explain why does he hate liberals. As my teacher on literature would say: the author has no idea what he is talking about. I have no doubts that Potap could write almost the same paragraph about sexual minorities with notorious clichs like same-sex marriages lead up to marriages with animals and legalization of pedophiles. And I'm not so sure that he could write also about Jews. As for his quotation of Dostoevsky one has to remember that the writer had extremely hard life and therefore deeply troubled personality. In 1848 he was pardoned by the emperor while he was standing on scaffolds awaiting execution.
I do not know, what about gays? I am not familiar with them. As to Jews, do not try to attribute anti-Semitism to me please. Xenofobia is not something my, including anti-Semitism. But as to Russian liberals, I can feel sorry for them only. Poor and miserable they are!. They have wrong people which does not want to give them more than 0,5 % at elections. They are so unlucky with Russian people, even great Russian writers deride liberals in their books.
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There were many reports about "cruelty" to FEMEN activists in barbarous Belarus, Russia and Ukraine.
Look how FEMEN activists were treated in civilized Paris

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I do not know, what about gays? I am not familiar with them. As to Jews, do not try to attribute anti-Semitism to me please. Xenofobia is not something my, including anti-Semitism. But as to Russian liberals, I can feel sorry for them only. Poor and miserable they are!. They have wrong people which does not want to give them more than 0,5 % at elections. They are so unlucky with Russian people, even great Russian writers deride liberals in their books.
Oh, really. Only one famous Russian writer derided liberals and I've already explained his cause. Also it's interesting to notice, how the Russian Orthodox Church ordered to squelch one-hundred anniversary of Leo Tolstoy's death, because he's kinda of liberal.
The fact that Russian liberals gain 0,5% votes, it's a shame and pain of Russia.
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The fact that Russian liberals gain 0,5% votes, it's a shame and pain of Russia.
I'm talking about the same. Russian liberals had no luck with the people. Maybe they'll move somewhere on Mars, and finally will cease to suffer?
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I'm talking about the same. Russian liberals had no luck with the people. Maybe they'll move somewhere on Mars, and finally will cease to suffer?
No, we cannot. I love the motherland and the people too much. Of course, the common attitude of the Russian people usually upsets me. But children sometimes also upset parents, but it isn't a reason to leave children. Parents bring children up in order to make their children polite. We must follow the example.
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