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Old December 8th, 2012, 04:43 AM   #31

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What about Spanish titles, does anyone know anything about them?
I know that the lower substratum of the Spanish nobility was formed by Hidalgos(hijo de algo= son of somebody rich), most of them were basically landless knights.
I know that a good number of Hidalgos fought in the Reconquista, in the Italian Wars and took part in the Spanish expeditions in America.

Above them stood the Ricoshombres(rich men) and at the top of the hierarchy the Grandes de España, they were the closest to the royal family and very influent at court(in case of a weak king they were the real shotcallers)
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I always found the title for the heir apparent to the French throne, Dauphin (literally, Dolphin) rather unusual. Although I suppose no more unusual than "Prince of Wales".
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It is funny, it commemorated the delivery of the Dauphiné to the French crown.
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You don't have to put disclaimers on it. Britain is European and it is also its own culture, just like every single other European nation is European as well as its own culture.
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It is funny, it commemorated the delivery of the Dauphiné to the French crown.
More exactly :
The heirs to the throne of France had the title of "Dauphin" since, in 1349, the "Seigneurie d'Albon et du Viennois" was sold to the French king Philippe VI, provided the heirs to the throne would be called "Dauphin".

Dauphin (equivalent of the female name Delphine) was in fact the middle name of several "comtes du Viennois".
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Thank you; Delphine is an attractive name, but Dauphin sounds odd to an English ear. In earlier times the title was Anglicized to 'the Dolphin', and it appears as such in the first quarto and folio of Shakespeare's plays, although it is often altered to 'Dauphin' in later editions, not always with fortunate effect.

'But I will rise there with so full a glory
That I will dazzle all the eyes of France,
Yea, strike the Dolphin blind to look on us;
And tell the pleasant prince, this mock of his
hath turned his balls to gun-stones...'

(Titter thee not at the back there!)
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I'm aware of a couple of the Germanic equivalents - Ritter and Graf. Some of the titles of the Holy Roman Empire were quite interesting, such as Count Palatine and Elector - I'm not sure where the former stems from though.

The church can be a good source of titles too - I particularly like "Archimandrite".

What other European titles do you know of? I know very little about Eastern European ones in particular.
For example the Elector was not a nobility title it was more priviledge guaranteed right to elect the Emperor.

7 electors were: Czech king, 3 archbishops, duke, margrave and falcgrave.

You can see the right to elect was given to the most powerful nobles in region but their titles were different.

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