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Old January 13th, 2013, 06:37 PM   #1

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Is the Dissolution of the Soviet Union better or worse for the world.


Do you think that the USSR's dissolution was good or bad for the world?
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Old January 13th, 2013, 06:43 PM   #2

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Do you think that the USSR's dissolution was good or bad for the world?
Seeing how the USSR illegally occupied Eastern and Central Europe while violently suppressing uprisings in Hungary, Czech Republic, and the Baltics just to name a few I would have to say the fall of the USSR was an obvious good thing.
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Seeing how the USSR illegally occupied Eastern and Central Europe while violently suppressing uprisings in Hungary, Czech Republic, and the Baltics just to name a few I would have to say the fall of the USSR was an obvious good thing.
Not really an argument, unless you're going to add US invaded Vietnam and Grenada, suppressed Iranian Democracy, installed murderous Dictators in Latin America, so better it breaks up into individual states. Or in fact any country that invades another country is best broken up.

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Do you think that the USSR's dissolution was good or bad for the world?
The question here is a the thing. Should they have independence, sure if they want, has it been a good thing for them, some yes and some no.

But your question is it good for the world? The former republics have provided a cheap source of oil for Europe and a lot of new territory, the EU is not complaining. The countries that border the former republics are no-longer under the sphere of Russian influence so much so they're pretty happy. On the other hand it has destabilised and de-modernised both the middle east and central Asia removing secular regimes and allowing religious regimes or backward dictatorships into power which is not so great for the world. In other words there have been positives and negatives.
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Not really an argument, unless you're going to add US invaded Vietnam and Grenada, suppressed Iranian Democracy, installed murderous Dictators in Latin America, so better it breaks up into individual states. Or in fact any country that invades another country is best broken up.
The topic of the discussion is the USSR. The same USSR that claimed Lithuania, Latvia, and Estonia as being part of the USSR.
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Having two superpowers was way better than having one. Balance of power on global scale is vitally important for world peace. E.g. had the USSR been not dissolved, many conflicts like Iraq invading Kuwait, subsequent gulf war, Russia invading Georgia, entire war on terror -war in Afghanistan, war in Iraq, etc. wouldn't have taken place, IMO.

Also, rise of extremist Islamic factions wouldn't have occurred, which I believe, were created to fill the vacuum (of opponents) arisen out of dissolution of USSR.

Continued existence of a reformed USSR, maybe as envisioned by Mikhail Gorbachev, would have been better for the world.
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I agree with most of what you say. Except I thought Gorbachev contributed towards the dissolution.
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USSR tried to modernize Afghanistan but US foiled it and made it a Terrorist Hub. Like other central Asian countries Afghanistan would have come put clean after the break of Soviet Union. The Soviet Stabilized and DE-radicalized the Islamic Central Asia.
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After the collapse of the USSR, the only counterpower to Western domination was China. And the Chinese can be way too peaceful and diplomatic. They are always going on about harmonious relations---this is too often interpreted as weakness by western geopolitics.

In regards to geopolitics The USSR was unafraid to get a little bloody which can be very necessary sometimes.
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Having two superpowers was way better than having one. Balance of power on global scale is vitally important for world peace. Continued existence of a reformed USSR, maybe as envisioned by Mikhail Gorbachev, would have been better for the world.
Two, nuclear-capable super-powers was a potential recipe for disater. We, the people of Earth, are lucky to have survived this.

Nothing wants me to go back to having 2 global bullies, armed to the teeth & unwilling to back down.
It's more likely to be China & the USA next time.

I have a lot of respect for Gorbachev but his reforms killed any chance he had of retaining power. I actually believe he was the very rare leader who sacrifiiced himself for the good of his country & the world.
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