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Old November 3rd, 2013, 11:07 AM   #1
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Trying to find ancient Nordic & Germanic names


I'm writing some fiction as a hobby with some other people, and one of the themes is an ancient order dating back to the second century. A few key figures are descended from Ancient Nordic and Germanic peoples, who have ancient ancestral names. I'm trying to find some names from the first half of the Iron Age, but I keep getting spammed with Roman names in all my searches, and sites that claim ancient names but have no dates or references to ages of any kind. Can someone help me with some links to lists of Nordic and German first and last names from the time period of 1200 BC to ~100 BC? I'd really appreciate any help anyone can be.
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I think you have a few issues you need to deal with and tackle first.

1. Naming conventions, such as first and last names, is a prardigm that exists in only some cultures. In many Scandinavian cultures, a convention was patrilinial descent... ie. If my name is Ben and my father's name is Andrew, then I am Ben Andrewsson. My sister would be Beth Andrewdottir. If you look at Icelandic names, you get a very good sense of that naming convention. A good place to start would be what literiture we dio have, such as Beowulf and have a look at the types of names, the sounds used, even if you make some up. Look at the language of the time and see if you can make something up based on part root words etc,.

2. Mostly, before Christianity as far as we know, majority of literature was oral based in poems like kennings, etc,. Yes there are the runic alphabet, but the majority of literature that I'm aware of comes from much later and was written by latinized Christians. The best examples of names might come from Snorri Starlusson's Poetic Edda and the Sagas he wrote, as well as say the Saxo Grammaticus. Likewise, a lot of what we know of certain periods is only found in literiture from what the Romans observed. Everyone seems to know about the Druids, but what they actually were is very much lost to history and Julius Caeser colours them quite a bit. I might be wrong on this though so if anyone has more info, I'd be very interested to hear.

3. Germania and Scandinavia was filled with a variety of peoples, you had the Norse yes, but you had the Finns, the Saami, the Jutes, the Celts, etc,. So I think narrowing down your focus to one particular group will give you a better idea. Likewise, as I said and am aware (again don't quote me on this I'm not expert) the iron age of this period doesn't have much surviving literiture. The golden age of the Vikings for example is centuries later, I believe starting in the 700s or so. The Saxons didn't really come into history until they started moving down from Germania.

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Man... this is a lot more complicated than I wanted it to be. Is there a way we can simplify this? I don't have time for all that research, I just don't. That's why I'm here, I'm hoping you guys can help. One character is born in 176 AD, suspected to be from the northern tip of what is now Germany. I'm looking for Germanic names with no roman influence. I guess anything from that time would be fine. For him I only need a first name since he was abandoned. He'll only have the first name his parents gave him. Does that help in narrowing down what names I should be looking at?

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Saxon I would suggest. Anglo-Saxon names generally had a part of their father's name, ie. Wulfric son of Aethelwulf., etc,.

Although, if I may say, if you truly wewant this piece of yours to be authentic... you can't just let the research go by the wayside. Good fiction is grounded in research, and history is complicated.
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This is just for fun, its nothing that's ever going to be published. Hmmm... I don't see any Saxon names, just Anglo-Saxon and that's hundreds of years after he was born. I look up Saxon names and don't find much, especially with quotes. Is that what I should searching or should I be using some other terminology to get the search results I'm looking for?

Sorry Larrey, I've actually been there. Those names are very generic and could be from any time in history. They don't provide what time in history they're from.

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Thats how names are... names are traditional... that's why people use them because they are handed down through the ages. Stephen, Paul, Matthew...

That's what Im trying to tell you, you can't find names from a culture that didn't have any surviving writing. Many iron age peoples didn't have written surviving literiture, you can only find names from sources centuries later when Romans, Christians, etc,. wrote them down. If it's just for fun, I would go with anglo-saxon names.
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Okay, thanks.
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I've been looking at this guide trying to find something, but there's no pronunciation guide for any of the names so I have no idea what I'm reading. I tried using a guide from another site but I don't really get it... I've never been any good at learning other languages. I guess I'm just too set in my ways speaking modern English. lol

I just wanted a name that sounds kinda slick without being really short, and without a bunch of consonants that make the name sound like you have a mouth full of peanut butter. Maybe something starting with an S or a soft C?. Anyone know any ancient Scandinavian, Germanic, or Anglo Saxon names that sound like what I just described?

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I'm writing some fiction as a hobby with some other people, and one of the themes is an ancient order dating back to the second century. A few key figures are descended from Ancient Nordic and Germanic peoples, who have ancient ancestral names. I'm trying to find some names from the first half of the Iron Age, but I keep getting spammed with Roman names in all my searches, and sites that claim ancient names but have no dates or references to ages of any kind. Can someone help me with some links to lists of Nordic and German first and last names from the time period of 1200 BC to ~100 BC? I'd really appreciate any help anyone can be.
The earliest runes were not written until 2nd or 3rd century CE, and that is probably the earliest you will find Germanic names. The German names recorded by Roman writers would have been Latinized
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