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Old July 3rd, 2009, 04:47 AM   #1
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At the time of Trojan war around 13th century B.C,who were Trojan people?Were they racially Greeks?Or Hittians?Thanks!
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Old July 3rd, 2009, 06:39 AM   #2

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Tough question and I seriously doubt if anyone has the definitive answer.
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Old July 3rd, 2009, 07:58 AM   #3

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Lol well first we would need to find troy.

Most likely Ionian Greeks.
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Old July 3rd, 2009, 08:54 AM   #4

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My opinion is they would have most likely been related to the Hittites. There is no indication that mainland Greeks had colonized the coast of Asia Minor by that point.

The only indication of any real possibility of contact is at Miletus, where Late Helladic IIIB Palatial style ceramics were found, which in simpler terms is the same ceramics found at all of the major Mycenaean sites on mainland Greece from the same period. Does this indicate colonization by the Mycenaeans in sourthern Asia Minor? Or just a trade connection?

As for the site of Troy, several Hittite texts have been located there and their language of Akkadian was not at all similar to that in Greece at the time which was called Mycenaean Greek (which is also not particularly related to later Classical Greek, but that's another story). There is little to no evidence of Mycenaean palatial architecture at the site, or any Mycenaean art. The architecture and art is characteristic to that of Hittite cities from the same period, so considering the language connection, the architecural connection and the close proximity to the Hittites, it seems more likely to be culturally Hittite. There is little evidence to suggest any connection to Greek descent and the period is several hundred years before Greek colonization of the Ionian coast occured.

We talked a lot about it in this thread, maybe check it out: http://historum.com/ancient-history/6409-what-aspect-trojan-war-real.html
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Old July 5th, 2009, 02:49 AM   #5

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Hello everybody, thats my first post in your nice forum

Greek colonisation starts around 7 or 6 century b.c. so Troy to be a greek colony is kind of.. out of the question.
Believe it or not, roman historians say that carthagenians came from Troy after the war.
Also i want to point out that, thracians have fought as trojan allies.
Excuse my bad english
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Old July 5th, 2009, 07:42 AM   #6
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Hello everybody, thats my first post in your nice forum

Greek colonisation starts around 7 or 6 century b.c. so Troy to be a greek colony is kind of.. out of the question.
Believe it or not, roman historians say that carthagenians came from Troy after the war.
Also i want to point out that, thracians have fought as trojan allies.
Excuse my bad english
Thank you for reply!But I dout your point.Thracians?When were this people first mentioned?As early as 13th century B.C?
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Old July 5th, 2009, 09:22 AM   #7

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Yep thracians have taken part in that war, as Troy's allies.
They are mentioned in Iliad the poem wrote by Odyssey. Orpheus is one of the famous thracian heroes who fought in that war.
Still thracians origins remain unknown by the history, some historians say that they are indo-europens who came from the Steppe, because they worship the horse, and they mainly use it in battle.
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And some say they migrated from Thrace thousands of years ago TO the Steppe.

There are many similarites, both linguistic and cultural, between the ancient Thracians and the inhabitants of the Ukraine. It's actually more likely that they moved north into that region from Thrace (modern day Bulgaria).
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Thats right Alex III Thracians even had a strong country on the territory where modern day Bulgaria is. As much as im informed there country is made a Roman province at 44 a.c
They existed until the slavic tribes came, and then thracians maybe mixed up.
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The Trojans would have been Anatolian in speech and custom, though not necessarily Hittite. As they dominated a major trade route, many Trojans probably did speak Mycenaean Greek, as well as Hittite, Luwian, and other languages common to that area.
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