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Old June 28th, 2014, 01:06 AM   #1
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EUROPE, 850. The beginning


This is, I think, the only map of Europe of that time. There is one more, but it is not so precise.

Here is how the start of Europe into the Medieval times looks:
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Old June 28th, 2014, 01:22 AM   #2
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At the first was a sword!
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Old June 29th, 2014, 10:39 AM   #3

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Pretty accurate.
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I've never even heard of three or four of the Eastern European peoples on the map. It looks good.
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Without the valorous efforts of the Carolingian and Byzantine Empires, today we would be speaking Arabic and practicing Islam.
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Without the valorous efforts of the Carolingian and Byzantine Empires, today we would be speaking Arabic and practicing Islam.
Do you seriously think that the Umayyads would try to come that far in Europe.
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Do you seriously think that the Umayyads would try to come that far in Europe.
Whelp, the Battle of Tours happened for a reason I guess.

About the map - I was under the impression that the Carpathian basin was under the rule of the Avars directly before the invasion of the Hungarians.

Could anyone give some heads-up on this matter ?
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It is interesting to see how much of Eastern Europe was still uncivilized and backwards at that time. We see just tribal peoples on the map, not organized states and kingdoms as we see in Spain, Italy, and France for example. There were also no large cities or towns in this region comparable to Western Europe or Byzantium.
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the Carpathian Basin in the 9th century


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Whelp, the Battle of Tours happened for a reason I guess.

About the map - I was under the impression that the Carpathian basin was under the rule of the Avars directly before the invasion of the Hungarians.

Could anyone give some heads-up on this matter ?
Bulgarian Khan Krum defeat and conquer the Eastern part of Avar Khaganate in 805. Hungarians arrive there in 895.
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