Historum - History Forums  

Go Back   Historum - History Forums > World History Forum > European History
Register Forums Blogs Social Groups Mark Forums Read

European History European History Forum - Western and Eastern Europe including the British Isles, Scandinavia, Russia


View Poll Results: Which colonial empire was more humane?
Belgium 5 3.85%
England / United Kingdom 28 21.54%
France 32 24.62%
Germany 13 10.00%
Italy 4 3.08%
Netherlands 6 4.62%
Portugal 8 6.15%
Spain 5 3.85%
United States of America 29 22.31%
Voters: 130. You may not vote on this poll

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old June 15th, 2015, 03:35 AM   #1

Darth Raidius's Avatar
Scholar
 
Joined: Nov 2013
From: Kingdom of Sweden
Posts: 536
Most humane colonial power?


Out of all major colonial powers throughout history, which country was the most humane, judging from their treatment of the native population?
Darth Raidius is offline  
Remove Ads
Old June 15th, 2015, 04:00 AM   #2

Belgarion's Avatar
Cynical Optimist
 
Joined: Jul 2011
From: Australia
Posts: 5,639

I now await the usual suspects to start bleating about the evils of the British Empire, US Imperialism and what a rotten bunch white English speaking people are generally.
Belgarion is offline  
Old June 15th, 2015, 04:07 AM   #3
Scholar
 
Joined: May 2015
From: Far From Home
Posts: 698

Offhand I'd say Germany.

Not because Germans are genetically nicer than other peoples. But simply because they got into the colony game late. By the 19th century Europeans in general were more humane than in earlier periods. So there were less exterminations.

Of course because of stuff later on Germany gets bad press a lot. For example for destroying a tribal rebellion in South West Africa. But losses caused by German colonialism there were small compared to those of other empires.
Raskolnik is offline  
Old June 15th, 2015, 04:33 AM   #4

Alto's Avatar
Scholar
 
Joined: Jun 2015
From: Camelot
Posts: 579

Agreed with poster above ,but I think its biased to put Germans and Americans in simply because they entered game so late.

Americans were viewed as friend of a lot of colonized people including the Chinese as "nicer" occupiers.

In earlier eras, the French were better only because they didn't have as many resources.

Ultimately how economically decided this issue is (such as how Spain, more dependent on colonial resources, was the most brutal, and America, least dependent, was the least brutal) shows how amoral the idea of colonization was: how nice and mean is just depending on how much the metropole needs the colonies.
Alto is offline  
Old June 15th, 2015, 04:42 AM   #5
Suspended until October 11th, 2018
 
Joined: Jan 2015
From: meo
Posts: 1,309

I voted for Britain...after all I read about India and Gandhi, I am surprised that they didnt use more violent options and do more to stop Gandhi.

Edit: oh god, I voted for America instead. Lol.
A Vietnamese is offline  
Old June 15th, 2015, 05:09 AM   #6

Gaius Julius Civilis's Avatar
Scholar
 
Joined: May 2015
From: The Netherlands
Posts: 811

I don't think the US qualifies as being the most humane based on its conduct in the Philippines. Also, I feel that Japan should be on the list, as it was a full-fledged colonial power prior to World War Two.

I'm inclined to say that the Dutch were one of the more humane ones, but that was probably conditioned by their limitations. Lacking a large population to begin, they relied heavily on immigration from other European countries (creating early forms of multiculturalism) and never bothered trying to force their language and culture on the natives. Like in the Dutch republic there was a great deal of religious tolerance in the colonies, which attracted a large number of Jews. In the 20th century they also started experimenting with more democratic rule in the East-Indies.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volksr...h_East_Indies)
Gaius Julius Civilis is offline  
Old June 15th, 2015, 07:52 AM   #7
Lecturer
 
Joined: Oct 2014
From: kenya
Posts: 343

Who is answering this question? the colonialist?!!
freeThinker is offline  
Old June 15th, 2015, 07:54 AM   #8
Historian
 
Joined: Nov 2012
Posts: 2,253

Dont we already have this thread?
Joshua A is offline  
Old June 15th, 2015, 08:01 AM   #9

Devdas's Avatar
Historian
 
Joined: Apr 2015
From: India
Posts: 3,233

Quote:
Originally Posted by A Vietnamese View Post
I voted for Britain...after all I read about India and Gandhi, I am surprised that they didnt use more violent options and do more to stop Gandhi.

Edit: oh god, I voted for America instead. Lol.
British killed tens of millions in India in number of man made famines and destroyed the local economy to loot the natural resources and sell their own stuffs.

Gandhi was a charismatic figure, any hardhandedness would have led to strong uprising, British better preferred to see but during 1942 Quit India movement, British were too harsh in their crackdown against Indian National Congress. Moreover, Do you know about the Jallianwalabagh Massacre.

Last edited by Devdas; June 15th, 2015 at 08:04 AM.
Devdas is offline  
Old June 15th, 2015, 08:09 AM   #10
Baldgustus of Baldistan
 
Joined: Aug 2009
From: Londinium
Posts: 4,448

Quote:
Originally Posted by Devdas View Post
British killed tens of millions in India in number of man made famines and destroyed the local economy to loot the natural resources and sell their own stuffs.

Gandhi was a charismatic figure, any hardhandedness would have led to strong uprising, British better preferred to see but during 1942 Quit India movement, British were too harsh in their crackdown against Indian National Congress. Moreover, Do you know about the Jallianwalabagh Massacre.
I think the point hes making is most other colonial powers would have not stopped at the Jallianwalabagh, that massacre would be a minor footnote in a huge number of such events , both carried out by Indians and the British army.

Worth pointing out that the guy (?) your quoting is Vietnamese, there was no Indian Diem Bien Phu.
Baldtastic is online now  
Reply

  Historum > World History Forum > European History

Tags
colonial, colonialism, humane, humanism, humanity, natives, power



Search tags for this page
Thread Tools
Display Modes


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Poland and an attempt to colonial power in 1600s Romanianboy2013 European History 5 March 31st, 2014 11:37 AM
China as a colonial power Naomasa298 Speculative History 11 July 29th, 2012 08:31 PM
Ottoman Colonial Power King Caesar I Speculative History 12 July 28th, 2012 04:18 PM
What would it have been like had India been ruled by any other colonial power? St. Anselm Speculative History 25 March 23rd, 2012 10:52 AM

Copyright © 2006-2013 Historum. All rights reserved.