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View Poll Results: Disraeli vs Gladstone
Benjamin Disraeli 12 41.38%
William Ewart Gladstone 17 58.62%
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Old December 13th, 2015, 03:14 AM   #11

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Good topic. I personally have more respect for Gladstone as I believe he was better for home affairs which should be a primary concern for a PM, foreign affairs are important secondary matter which Disraeli was more aligned for.

Which one was actually better, personal opinions aside, I would say Disraeli.
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Old December 13th, 2015, 03:42 AM   #12
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Thanks for this information! Thus, all of this, along with Gladstone's apparently more left-wing economic policies, would certainly make me prefer Gladstone over Disraeli.
Can you expand - I'm not aware that Gladstone' s economic policies were particularly left-wing. I have an axe to grind in the debate as I volunteer at Gladstone' s Library in North Wales.
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Old December 13th, 2015, 04:13 AM   #13

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Gladstone's brand of liberalism consisted of limited government expenditure and low taxation incorporated into balanced budgets. Social reform with the stress on self-help and freedom of choice. Gladstone also emphasised the need for free trade, minimum government intervention in the economy and equality of opportunity through institutional reform.
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Old December 13th, 2015, 05:06 AM   #14

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Can you expand - I'm not aware that Gladstone' s economic policies were particularly left-wing. I have an axe to grind in the debate as I volunteer at Gladstone' s Library in North Wales.
I'll be honest with you--back in my AP Euro class in high school (8 years ago!), I learned that Gladstone was more in favor of the common man than Disraeli was. Of course, this might have had more to do with things such as suffrage than with economic policy; indeed, maybe you can enlighten me in regards to this.
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Old December 13th, 2015, 05:42 AM   #15
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I'll be honest with you--back in my AP Euro class in high school (8 years ago!), I learned that Gladstone was more in favor of the common man than Disraeli was. Of course, this might have had more to do with things such as suffrage than with economic policy; indeed, maybe you can enlighten me in regards to this.

I suppose this is true. However, Disraeli is such a fun figure; part man of the people, part shyster. For a leader who had a whole progressive era of history flowing against him Disraeli adapted fairly well. My head is with Gladstone my heart is with Disraeli.

Im glad we had both. Though Gladstone would not have felt similarly. He really, really disliked Disraeli.
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Gladstone's brand of liberalism consisted of limited government expenditure and low taxation incorporated into balanced budgets. Social reform with the stress on self-help and freedom of choice. Gladstone also emphasised the need for free trade, minimum government intervention in the economy and equality of opportunity through institutional reform.
From memory this sums up most of Gladstone's career. Latterly in his life though he became more radical.
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Old December 13th, 2015, 06:27 AM   #17

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I admire both. I think their reforms were very similar, despite them being enemies. Though Gladstone had less class imho. Even if he "hated" Disreali, he should have attended his funeral. As sitting PM, imho it was his duty, irrespective of them being enemies for years before.
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Old December 15th, 2015, 12:04 PM   #18

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Got to go with Disraeli. Founder of One Nation Conservatism (the best kind in my opinion), instituted more significant social reforms (not to say Gladders didn't create significant reforms as well) and protected British interests/the British Empire.
Even Otto von Bismarck was in awe of him at the Congress of Berlin, where, with a bit of brinkmanship, he made Russia lose a war that it had militarily won in the Balkans.
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Old December 15th, 2015, 01:18 PM   #19

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Gladstone spend a large amount of his time stalking the streets of London seeking to reclaim street prostitutes from a life of vice. He would invite them to he home and give them food and shelter for the night, lecturing them on the evils of sin.
Sometimes his wife joined in.
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Old December 15th, 2015, 01:20 PM   #20

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Gladstone spend a large amount of his time stalking the streets of London seeking to reclaim street prostitutes from a life of vice. He would invite them to he home and give them food and shelter for the night, lecturing them on the evils of sin.
Sometimes his wife joined in.
And what was his success rate? By the way, did the hookers demand to be paid for their time?
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