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View Poll Results: Disraeli vs Gladstone
Benjamin Disraeli 12 41.38%
William Ewart Gladstone 17 58.62%
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Old December 15th, 2015, 01:24 PM   #21

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And what was his success rate? By the way, did the hookers demand to be paid for their time?
Apparently he gave them enough money to tide them over--so that they didn't have to walk the streets the next night. Generous chap.

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Old December 15th, 2015, 01:29 PM   #22
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Gladstone spend a large amount of his time stalking the streets of London seeking to reclaim street prostitutes from a life of vice. He would invite them to he home and give them food and shelter for the night, lecturing them on the evils of sin.
Sometimes his wife joined in.
Kinky, that!
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Yep, I am changing my vote to Gladstone. I am all for hands-on hooker re-education.
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Gladstone's brand of liberalism consisted of limited government expenditure and low taxation incorporated into balanced budgets. Social reform with the stress on self-help and freedom of choice. Gladstone also emphasised the need for free trade, minimum government intervention in the economy and equality of opportunity through institutional reform.
Am i wrong if I say that Gladstone seemed more laissez-faire than Disraeli then?
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Hyde Park Corner, William Sangster preaching. Some bloke calls out 'Does Jesus Save Loose Women'. Answer 'Yes. Of course'. THe bloke says 'Could you get him to save one for me?'.
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Am i wrong if I say that Gladstone seemed more laissez-faire than Disraeli then?
I think Gladstone was more laissez-faire for most of his career. I get the impression Disraeli had to be dragged kicking and screaming towards free trade. There is a quote somewhere of Gladstone congratulating himself of all the barriers to free trade he had stricken from the law. The last few years of Gladstone's life he may have backtracked partially from laissez-fare.
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The last few years of Gladstone's life he may have backtracked partially from laissez-fare.
How??
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How??
Im not sure. I do know he became more radical with age, a radicalness that may have been inconsistent with laissez-faire policies. Without remembering the specifics of Gladstone's later ideology when you start to believe in all sorts of social & economic policies for the betterment of the people at some point this comes crashing up against free market individualism. Gladstone may have been able to square the circle but I suspect Gladstone's circle(or square) was kinda out of shape by the end of his career.
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Im not sure. I do know he became more radical with age, a radicalness that may have been inconsistent with laissez-faire policies. Without remembering the specifics of Gladstone's later ideology when you start to believe in all sorts of social & economic policies for the betterment of the people at some point this comes crashing up against free market individualism. Gladstone may have been able to square the circle but I suspect Gladstone's circle(or square) was kinda out of shape by the end of his career.
I am not sure but his next three successors (Primrose, Campbell-Bannerman, Asquith) still followed laissez faire, didn't they?
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I am not sure but his next three successors (Primrose, Campbell-Bannerman, Asquith) still followed laissez faire, didn't they?
Perhaps, but I don't know enough about their individual policies. I was talking more about Gladstone in particular. I may have to pull back some of my earlier criticisms of Gladstone. A few moments of browsing has shown a still fairly strong laissez faire commitment in Gladstone during his later years. I still think an element of state "mission creep" existed within him but he withstood this fairly well.
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