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Old January 10th, 2017, 11:39 PM   #11
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The oldest city in Europe and one of the oldest in the world is Matera in South Italy

There is evidence that people were living in Matera as early as the year 7000 BC.

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Old January 11th, 2017, 12:02 AM   #12
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Whatīs to be a city? to be inhabited donīt mean to be a city.. so the oldest city on Europe is Atapuerca (800.000 years BC). Traditionaly the old city in West Europe is Cadis (stablished as City by Phoenicians)..

The "City" of Atapuerca, the oldest settled place in Europe:

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800.000 years ago...
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Old January 11th, 2017, 12:10 AM   #13

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I'm with Martin. How on earth can we know? Most remains are now gone. All we can do is speak in tens of thousands of years for inhabited areas, not 3 or 4 milennia.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vin%C4%8Da-Belo_Brdo

5200-4900 BCE.

Check Vinča and Starčevo cultures.
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Are we talking about oldest cities/settlements in general or oldest continuously inhabited cities in europe? Because Varna (I lived in this city) from Wojtek's list was founded as Odessos by settlers from the greek city of Miletus, though eneolithic ~5000 BC settlement existed within modern city limits, best known with Varna necropolis & the oldest gold treasure in the world found in it.
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An old Matera Room..
It doesn't look like a cavern..


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Old January 16th, 2017, 05:28 AM   #17

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I fully agree.

Madrid - nueve meses de invierno y tres meses de infierno.

(Madrid - nine months of winter and three months of Hell).

Back to the topic: is there any evidence that Lisbon is older than Rome (or any other place in Europe)?
Has a reason Carolus friend for what I am reading Lisbon Cadiz Athens is older than Rome and I read that lisbon is the most suggestive yet I did not discover which is the first, I was amazed that these 3 cities are older than Rome.

Lisbon, Cadiz, Athens ... All of them have been inhabited for more than two thousand years and reveal in many of their neighborhoods and places the history of an ever-changing Europe.
And, it's true: Lisbon is on the Telegraph's list of the continent's oldest continuously inhabited cities, but there are many more to see. A good part of them Greek, which should not surprise us either. Strange the lack of Rome? No wonder: it will only have been founded 29 years after the most "young" of the cities on this list.
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Are we talking about oldest cities/settlements in general or oldest continuously inhabited cities in europe? Because Varna (I lived in this city) from Wojtek's list was founded as Odessos by settlers from the greek city of Miletus, though eneolithic ~5000 BC settlement existed within modern city limits, best known with Varna necropolis & the oldest gold treasure in the world found in it.
Who knows?
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Oldest continuously inhabited city on this continent is argos, followed by athens. Greece is after all the (european) cradle of civilization
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