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September 6th, 2006, 11:00 AM
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#1 | | Lecturer
Joined: Jun 2006 From: Montana Mountains Posts: 254 | fire vs the wheel
Which discovery or invention had a greater impact on the advancement of civilization?
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September 6th, 2006, 12:01 PM
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#2 | | Citizen
Joined: Sep 2006 From: Oklahoma City Posts: 4 |
I'm gonna have to put my money on fire, for it has had many purposes in the history of mankind. First for cooking, many historians believe that our mental capacity imporved after eating cooked meat. Second is protection, early man used it to keep the wilderness at bay. Third is warmth, without the warmth of fire mankind would not have made it through the last Ice Age. Fourth and finally warfare, many sieges have been won with the use of fire.
But don't get me wrong the wheel would definatly be mankind's second greatest achievement
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September 6th, 2006, 01:05 PM
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#3 | | Historian
Joined: Jun 2006 From: Jacksonville, FL Posts: 1,348 |
I voted for fire as well. Although I do think man could have survived through the ice age without fire. I'm not sure of the exact temps during the ice age, but I bet around the Equator and in Mexico it would have been warm enough to survive with a fur coat.
For some reason this thread reminds me of the beginning of 2001 Space Odyssey
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September 6th, 2006, 01:12 PM
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#4 | | Scholar
Joined: Aug 2006 From: Roving Posts: 758 |
Also, we needed fire to cook meat. High protein diets developed by man turning into hunters, and as well as the needs of hunting, creating tools such as weapons, skinning implements, etc. resulted in human beings developing large brains.
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September 7th, 2006, 01:13 PM
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#5 | | Lecturer
Joined: Aug 2006 Posts: 275 |
I voted fire. BURNED! :snakeman:
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September 8th, 2006, 11:27 AM
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#6 | | Archivist
Joined: Jun 2006 From: celtman Posts: 165 |
It seems everyone is voting for fire. Do you think we really could have got around on a square wheel?
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September 10th, 2006, 08:05 AM
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#7 | | Historian
Joined: Jul 2006 From: Hellas Posts: 1,315 |
Fire, to cook, to warm, to survive.
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September 14th, 2006, 09:44 AM
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#8 | | Lecturer
Joined: Jun 2006 From: Earthquake Central Posts: 368 | Quote: |
Originally Posted by celtman It seems everyone is voting for fire. Do you think we really could have got around on a square wheel? | I think that a primitive society could survive without the use of the wheel.
I don't think a primitive society could survive without the use of fire.
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September 14th, 2006, 09:45 AM
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#9 | | Scholar
Joined: Aug 2006 From: Roving Posts: 758 |
Native Americans never had the wheel and they built huge cities in Mexico and in the Andes.
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September 14th, 2006, 10:03 AM
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#10 | | Scholar
Joined: Sep 2006 From: Topeka, Kansas Posts: 643 | Quote: |
Originally Posted by CelticBard Native Americans never had the wheel and they built huge cities in Mexico and in the Andes. | Great point. An entire civilization built without the wheel. I would further add that wheeled toys from these cultures have been discovered. This would suggest that they understood the concept of the wheel, but they didn't have the resources needed to practically apply the idea - namely large domesticated animals to provide the power. Whatever the case, they did just fine without it. I don't think you could say the same about fire.
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