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Old February 27th, 2010, 08:23 AM   #1

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Can Someone Help Me Put a Date on These Bottles?


Well, I haven't seen grass in well over a month here in New Alaska (New Jersey ) but with the recent rain and melting snow the river in the forest has flooded again unearthing new bottles I found Thursday before the next snowstorm hit...

The first ones are Pepsi bottles and I have looked everywhere to put dates on these bottles with no success. The smaller one has a volume of 10 ounces while the larger one's is 16. the front of it has the word "PEPSI" written in long block letters while the back has the words "PEPSI-COLA" in smaller letters. Anyone have an idea of an age for these bottles? I have some pictures here;

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The next bottle is a TAB soda bottle. I know that TAB is a 1960's diet soda make by Coke before Diet Coke came out but I'm not aware of when they used glass bottles for their drinks. Here are some pictures;

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Third, is a Rolling Rock pony bottle that I found in a small pile of bottles presumably thrown into the woods when it was used as a "private" landfill.

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Fourth here is a small glass/porcelain cup that I really dont know the purpose of. Maybe makeup? It's four sided at its base and forms into a cylinder top. Any opinions?

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Here's a bottle, presumably gin, whiskey, or some other hard drink sure to its size and design. This was lodged into the side of a clay wall and I went out on a limb (literally) to get it

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Does anyone have any input as to any of the 5 bottles I just shared? I have a general idea of them but I really don't know anymore information on them in terms of age or for some, contents or purpose. Thanks for any information!
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Old February 27th, 2010, 09:12 AM   #2

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Maybe checking some websites that have a thing for this sort of thing would help. Or better still, send some pictures into the head offices of the companies and ask them if they know.
Maybe an Art Director (from the film industry) might have an idea also, as they sometimes need such things for period movies - there are prop houses full of stuff like this!

They are very nice finds never the less!
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Old February 27th, 2010, 10:18 AM   #3

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Always fun to stumble across 'ancient' mans trash.
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Old February 27th, 2010, 10:27 AM   #4

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I guess the garbage today is the Archaeological Discovery of the Future!
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Old February 27th, 2010, 10:47 AM   #5

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I bet this person could tell you.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Old-Pepsi-bottle...item3a5810a393



Look around on ebay till you find yours.
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I guess the garbage today is the Archaeological Discovery of the Future!
Monte Testaccio would be nowadays a paramount Roman analogy
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Pepsi started test marketing the 16 ounce bottle in 1960. That same year they introduced the 'no deposit-no return' bottle. By 1963 the design of the Pepsi logo was changed from a script letter to a block (sans serif) lettering to a more modern 'pop art' image to increase the soft drinks appeal to the young.
I got this information from the book Pepsi-Cola 100 Years by Bob Stoddard. Of the hundreds of illustrations and advertisements reproduced I find it curious not one shows your bottle. Was it a special design that failed it's marketing test? The quest continues. But I think we can safely say that your bottles are post 1960.


The cosmetic bottle looks like what cold cream came in. Just a guess.
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Pepsi started test marketing the 16 ounce bottle in 1960. That same year they introduced the 'no deposit-no return' bottle. By 1963 the design of the Pepsi logo was changed from a script letter to a block (sans serif) lettering to a more modern 'pop art' image to increase the soft drinks appeal to the young.
I got this information from the book Pepsi-Cola 100 Years by Bob Stoddard. Of the hundreds of illustrations and advertisements reproduced I find it curious not one shows your bottle. Was it a special design that failed it's marketing test? The quest continues. But I think we can safely say that your bottles are post 1960.


The cosmetic bottle looks like what cold cream came in. Just a guess.
Highly likely that the Pepsi bottles came from a foreign country. I have a set of Coca Cola Bottles from France and a Pepsi bottle from Ukraine that looks nothing like any I've seen before.
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Highly likely that the Pepsi bottles came from a foreign country.
With 'no deposit-no return" in English? And then disposed of in New Jeresy? I suppose anything is possible.
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But I think we can safely say that your bottles are post 1960.


The cosmetic bottle looks like what cold cream came in. Just a guess.
My thoughts exactly. I would refine it to 1960 to 1975 because the Pepsi bottles are the old crimped cap bottles that required an opener. The Rolling Rock pony bottle is of more recent vintage because it is a screw cap. Also beverage containers were always locally manufactured to minimize shipping costs. Could be some minor permutations by a local bottler.

The bottom bottle is not a whiskey bottle because it doesn't have threads for a cap. Not to many corked wines come in clear bottles. So no suggestions for that one.

By the way, do women still use cold cream? My wife uses lotions in lieu of. If I dared to investigate that I would probably determine it is because the lotions are more expensive.
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