Originally Posted by jgrooms
What say the Titanic experts about this photo supposedly showing evidence of a coal fire & this had structurally damaged the hull. And this is where the iceberg hit?
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There is money to be made in trying to push NEW theories about the titanic or other famous events of the past. This doofus got a "documentary"made....
However- his theory is based on nonsense.
Everyone knows there was a fire in the coal bunker. It was well covered in the inquest- and there was significant divergence in the 'testimony' in that the supposed testimony that the fire was Not out, and the bulkhead was seen to be cherry red with heat was utterly debunked by actual survivors who had the job of clearing that bunker.
The men who cleared the last of the coal from that bunker reported that The fire was OUT entirely before the wreck. That the bunker was totally empty by that time, and the ONLY mention of the bulkhead being red hot was one of the men who inspected the bunker interior reported that he could see where the paint on the bulkhead had been charred which lead him to believe that the bulkhead must have gotten red hot at some prior time.
That is- NO One SAW the bulkhead red hot... they surmised it must have gotten that hot When it was inspected after the bunker was emptied.
Moreover the 'supposed' testimony of the person cited in the fake documentary could not be corroborated and contained several factual errors.
For one- he referred to the bunker by the wrong designation... One that neither the builders, nor the men who operated the Titanic ever used. For two- he reported that the coal was wetted down to try and keep it from catching fire- but it was well established fact at that time that WET coal was twice as likely to spontaneously combust. In fact, colliers loading coal took special care to ensure the bunkers were bone dry before loading coal, and that the coal had to be kept dry.
And it is true that Coal fires in bunkers were not uncommon at all. and there was a well established method for eliminating them. First- ships of that era always had numerous separate coal bunkers so that any fire that broke out would be contained.
Secondly, once a fire had started, the stokers in that boiler room compartment would use exclusively the coal from the bunker that was burning, so as to empty it as fast as possible. Titanic had been running on the coal from that bunker and had run entirely thru that supply of coal by the early evening of the accident.
The notion that the Titanic was steaming at high speed to try and get to new york for help putting out a fire that was already out is ludicrous. And Charles Lightoller- titanic's second officer, was specifically asked about the bunker fire at the inquest and reported that he was entirely unaware of any bunker fire aboard... and when questioned further, stated that a coal bunker fire was such a minor concern that it would not at all be unusual for the engineering officer to not even bother to mention it, unless he thought it might affect the running of the ship.
The man who testified as to the condition of the bunker9 having entered the bunker to ensure all the coal was pout of it and to inspect the damage, PHYSICALLY touched the bulkhead where the scorch mark was- so by the time he got in there, the bulkhead was not even warm to the touch.
He reported that other than the scorched paint ( that he cleaned off and rubbed the steel down with oil ) the only damage was that the bulkhead itself was dinged Out near the bottom and IN near the top.... meaning that the expanding hot metal had dished slightly in a wavy dimple.
So- the most credible reportage is that coal bunker fires were not even deemed dangerous enough to bother to report to the Captain and Second officer. That the fire was out, and the metal dead cool by well before the accident, and that the damage suffered was minor.
There is no way they would have need to steam extra fast to put out a fire that was already out and of which the second officer was not even aware.
This is not a 'new' theory.... it has been fielded before and the source suggesting this fireboat in New York yarn has been thoroughly discredited.