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Old June 4th, 2017, 02:43 PM   #101
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As I pointed out the Irish American Vice President and founding father George Clinton was a Dutch Reformer. Thus he was an American founded on Irish and Dutch influences.
Vice President Clinton was Presbyterian and most of his family was Scotch-Irish from Ulster. He was also part English and Dutch. Not many native Irish Catholics went to colonial America.
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Vice President Clinton was Presbyterian and most of his family was Scotch-Irish from Ulster. He was also part English and Dutch. Not many native Irish Catholics went to colonial America.
According to adherents.com, George Clinton was a Dutch Reformer.
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Old June 5th, 2017, 07:29 PM   #103
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According to adherents.com, George Clinton was a Dutch Reformer.
Wikipedia says he was Presbyterian. I looked it up on Geni, and his ancestry was entirely from Ireland. One of his ancestors was from Dublin, so some of it could have been native Irish or Anglo-Irish rather than all Scotch-Irish.

He was buried in a Dutch Reformed cemetery in New York State. The two religions are fairly close. His wife appears to have been of entirely Dutch ancestry, so he probably took her religion or he was buried there to be with her, since she died earlier.
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San Antonio is a city stablished by the Spaniards in 1718. The population came from the Canary Islands. (Still, there are original people from Canary Islands families in San Antonio). San Antonio was the capital of Texas.

Alburquerque is other city stablished by Spaniards in 1706. And it is named Alburquerque in honor of Duke of Alburquerque, exactly by Don Francisco Fernández de la Cueva y Enriquez de Cabrera, 8th Duke of Alburquerque, Marquis of Cuéllar, Count of Ledesma and of Huelma, Grandee of Spain. A veteran from the campaigns in Flanders and Germany that was sent to New Spain in 1653.
Martin pulls martin I even got scared, with the Albuquerque this is Spanish we have the afonso Albuquerque with the title the King of the indians, as we have Cuba in the

Alentejo before the espahois have the island of Cuba, after all which origins of these names are Portuguese or Spanish , I give you already the answer to my friend martin the origin of the names are Arabs. A big hug for all historians of history.
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Martin pulls martin I even got scared, with the Albuquerque this is Spanish we have the afonso Albuquerque with the title the King of the indians, as we have Cuba in the

Alentejo before the espahois have the island of Cuba, after all which origins of these names are Portuguese or Spanish , I give you already the answer to my friend martin the origin of the names are Arabs. A big hug for all historians of history.
Right. Thanks.
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Old June 17th, 2017, 05:49 PM   #106
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JoanofArc,

To be honest the Chrch was the first to not only recognize the United States, they had the plans for these States in their works long before Columbus was "used" to "discover" this Country of over 20 million people.

Knowing how creating a Country is a LOT like creating a new team in the National Basketball Association (the NBA) where the other "owners" (in this case, the other Countries leaders are the owners) where the owners vote yea or nay to decide whether the new team is accepted. This isn't a public vote, nor are the results of this vote printed in the papers....indeed, it is kept quite secret.

Today's current wars in Syria and Afghanistan and elsewhere are basically doing the same thing Columbus did, "discover" a new Country.....all you have to do is kill the original owners of the land. In every war the public/people suffer more than 50-times the casualties as the men fighting in the Armies. This is done by design. It's called "culling the herd. And these conquered lands of Iran, Iraq, Afghanistan, etc., already have a new name....it's been on the drawing board for over a century, but is just now beginning to come to fruition.

Yes sir. The New Canaan. It isn't here exactly yet, but it's coming. Just like at one time America was coming (was still in the future). And knowing how the "team owners" are the one's who vote whether a new country is in or out (black-balled), I guarantee you ALL of them know about this New Canaan, and recognize it already, just as they did with the creation of America.
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Then why add?

"Either way I respect both France and Morocco in large part due to their longstanding relation with the US."
Who gives a crap?
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Morocco was the first to recognize the United States. The reorganization was granted in 1977, which made Morocco the first country to recognize United States.
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Old November 17th, 2017, 07:28 AM   #109

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Accordind the U.S State Department: Office of the historian

1/ Morocco: December 20, 1777 but formalized in 1786
2/ France: February 6, 1778
3/ Netherlands: April 19, 1782
4/ Spain : February 20, 1783
5/ Sweden: April 3, 1783
6/ United Kingdom: September 3, 1783
7/ Papal States: December 15, 1784

It's clearly mentionned that Morocco was the first State to recognize the USA even if it was formalized later, therefore before France and that for wathever the reason.

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