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Old September 8th, 2017, 10:40 PM   #1
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The Influence of Eurocentrism on Our Grasp of History


This was inspired by a thread of a similar title: "The influence of political correctness on our grasp of history in your opinion". What is the effect of eurocentrism on our view of History?
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This was inspired by a thread of a similar title: "The influence of political correctness on our grasp of history in your opinion". What is the effect of eurocentrism on our view of History?
What is your definition of eurocentrism? Do you mean western world only? Considering western world (rich north-american states included) as focal to world history and culture? Or do you mean to interpret the world in terms of western european values only? Is it connected with the race and colonial past of some european states?

EDIT: Personally i think that this expression 'eurocentrism' has negative connotations to many ppl around the world (from countries / former possession of the european colonial powers , black in U.S. due to atlantic slave trade, ME countries due to various XX and XXI century events, even former cold war adversaries, lots of whom ironically inhabited this very continent) and is used by them in pejorative way. My guess is that this is somehow connected with antiamericanism /blacks in america excluded, they are americans/, because U.S. is the leader of the western world.

EDIT2: Related to -centrism terms i follow a thread about Egypt and afrocentism in this forum and i presume that for some ppl afrocentrism is seen as connected to AA specifically so their resentment of some of afrocentist theories is an expression of their anti-american feelings.

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This was inspired by a thread of a similar title: "The influence of political correctness on our grasp of history in your opinion". What is the effect of eurocentrism on our view of History?
In the West (Canada), only European history is taught at high school.
Let's show what I have taken for my history minor:
Historiography (1 class)
History of the British Empire (1 class)
History of the Ottoman Empire (it is a class that includes forum discussion; I was a much worse forum participant back then.)
History of Canada (2 classes)
American history (2 classes)
I shall confess that I am never the best in formal school studies; as a free spirit most of the time, I prefer to read whatever like.
I haven't learned much from classes; then, I should be thankful that I acquired literacy at schools.
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What is the effect of eurocentrism on our view of History?
same as that of Ancient Rome Empire which fooled its people into deeming the rest of the World 'barbaric' all over.
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Sometimes it creates the idea that western men did everything and other people just waited to be discovered, saved, cured, civilizad, etc.

The same with the idea of the clash of civilizations between the west and Islam.
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I believe in a centric world view where one region or area tends to usually be the focus. This was mostly Europe in the latter part of the human story.

I feel Eurocentrism is a perception largely had by people who's historical foundation only goes back a few centuries seeing how heavily dominated by Europeans the last few centuries have been. During classical times Europe is largely a side show to the Middle East and Africa and arguably doesn't surpass the Middle East until the 1500-1600s.

Of course attacking European centrism also can be used as an excuse to center history around people who weren't driving events which I see as a large problem in history today.
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attacking European centrism also can be used as an excuse to center history around people who weren't driving events
why on earth 'driving events' be considered as better than staying where you are and not trying to stir anything up?
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why on earth 'driving events' be considered as better than staying where you are and not trying to stir anything up?
I don't even think "staying where you are and not trying to stir anything up" is true to most of the non western societies in History.

The notion of "the west" as the only driver of events don't seem true to me.
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I don't even think "staying where you are and not trying to stir anything up" is true to most of the non western societies in History.
and i did not mean the West.
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why on earth 'driving events' be considered as better than staying where you are and not trying to stir anything up?
Not saying anything negative but history's about telling a story. It's not a matter of whose a better person, it's a matter of who did stuff that drove the events that shaped the world. Basically I am opposed to the Foucaltian school of history "wherever there's power there's resistance". I think studying leaders and the people who drive events is most important to the human story, as it teaches us why the world we have today is the way it is. Who those leaders are and where they are from is irrelevant. I get that there are leaders who have been obscured from other civilizations and a refocus on them is good but I also see trying to pick outlier's within suppressed groups(like post colonialism) and draw false conclusions off of it, to empower people living today rather than to tell an accurate history.
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