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Old October 7th, 2017, 06:01 AM   #1
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Soviet crimes against the Polish nation


74 years ago 900 km in north-east direction from Moscow Polish actor and singer Eugeniusz Bodo was murdered in a Russian-soviet death camp.

Soviets killed during war operations, through sending to death camps in Russian land, executions and stalinist show-trials approximately 3 mln Poles. This includes around 100.000-200.000 doctors, artists, scientists, politicians, officers, priests and all kinds of intellectuals.

http://scholarlycommons.law.case.edu...78&context=jil

74 lata temu w sowieckim ?agrze zmar? Eugeniusz Bodo | dzieje.pl - Historia Polski

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Old October 7th, 2017, 06:10 AM   #2

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Sadly Putin's paid internet goons will be in here shortly to tell you that they didn't die or disappear but instead went to live in a glorious holiday camp in Siberia where they enjoyed full lunches, gainful employment and led long happy and prosperous lives in the workers paradise known as the USSR, until the evil USA and her lap dogs bought down this glorious Republic which never did any thing wrong and every one was happy there all the time.

Try not to get to angry when they show up.
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Old October 28th, 2017, 03:35 AM   #3

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Hey Lawn.
After watching that "Katyn" movie I started to read about the soviet invasion in Polska.
My thoghts about it are.... I have the impression that.... It looks to me as...
How did a nation not governing itself for 70 years remain as such, as a nation??
How could that happen?? It looks almost impossible considerating that germans and russians must have tried to kill the talented and intelligent people. Was the exiled government any help??
I had the chance to talk to Arkadius Golas when he visited Córdoba Argentina in 2002.
What is for Polska the soviet era legacy??
Do poles also call it the "Warsaw Pact"?? In spanish it is known as Tratado de Varsovia.
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Old October 28th, 2017, 03:56 AM   #4

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Well, Latvians not governed themselves for 700 years and remained a nation...
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Old October 28th, 2017, 11:17 PM   #5

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Hey Lawn.
After watching that "Katyn" movie I started to read about the soviet invasion in Polska.
My thoghts about it are.... I have the impression that.... It looks to me as...
How did a nation not governing itself for 70 years remain as such, as a nation??
How could that happen?? It looks almost impossible considerating that germans and russians must have tried to kill the talented and intelligent people. Was the exiled government any help??
I had the chance to talk to Arkadius Golas when he visited Córdoba Argentina in 2002.
What is for Polska the soviet era legacy??
Do poles also call it the "Warsaw Pact"?? In spanish it is known as Tratado de Varsovia.
Because the grandparents and even the parents still remembered how things were when they did govern themselves.

In my generation in Soviet Russia there practically were very few who remembered how things were before 1917. No one had a good idea what society he wanted to live in.

But Poland, like the Baltic states, used to have thriving, developed societies with normally run economy before 1939. They very well imagined what life they wanted back.
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Old October 30th, 2017, 07:19 AM   #6
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NKVD_Order_No._00485

On 11th August 1937 Yezhov (NKVD chief)published order 00485 to liquidate all Polish diversionists and espionage groups.

This mini holocaust resulted in the arrest of 144,000 Poles in the Soviet Union, destruction of the Polish Communist Party, shooting of 110,000 Poles and the deportation of most of the remainder to labour camps.

Stalin wrote to congratulate Yezhov; "Very good. Dig up and purge this Polish espionage mud in the future as well. Destroy it in the interest of the USSR."
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Old October 30th, 2017, 10:32 AM   #7

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Can someone help me understand.....
What was the view of poles about the exciled government??
Do poles currently call it "the warsaw pact"??
(Договор о дружбе, сотрудничестве и взаимной помощи)
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Old October 30th, 2017, 11:02 AM   #8

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Can someone help me understand.....
What was the view of poles about the exciled government??
Do poles currently call it "the warsaw pact"??
(Договор о дружбе, сотрудничестве и взаимной помощи)
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Can someone help me understand.....
What was the view of poles about the exciled government??
Do poles currently call it "the warsaw pact"??
(Договор о дружбе, сотрудничестве и взаимной помощи)
Warsaw Pact is the the informal name of the treaty. The official name is Treaty of friendship, cooperation and mutual assistance - last sentence in russian from your post. Translate it to polish and voila polish name.

https://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uk%C5%82ad_Warszawski
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Old October 30th, 2017, 12:20 PM   #10

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Hey AtEach...
Thanks for reading my post.
It's easy to get in the web the official name of anything you want. I know that.
But if I was a pole, I would find it very difficult to accept that historians arround the world still use that name: Warsaw Pact.
I pasted the ooriginal complete name of the pact (my cell's keyboard can't write it), because it is in russian, which would be hard to swallow in modern times in which most treatys are officially texted in the home country language.
Plus, the logo of the pact has the russian words for WP (roughly Varshavskij Dagarov).
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